Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   G37 gives way to FRS! (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39399)

CSI:86 06-21-2013 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deki (Post 1015730)
Maybe it's your exhaust. Plus, aren't G37s like mid 15 second cars?

On a serious note, they trap 13mph higher in the 1/4 then the FR-S, even if he missed a gear, or two, he would still fly past you, especially after 70. Maybe he wasn't racing?

Obviously the G37 was casually driving (shifting at 4k) while he was redlining. :lol:

Enlight 06-21-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deki (Post 1015730)
Maybe it's your exhaust. Plus, aren't G37s like mid 15 second cars?

On a serious note, they trap 13mph higher in the 1/4 then the FR-S, even if he missed a gear, or two, he would still fly past you, especially after 70. Maybe he wasn't racing? Or maybe it was a G25 if it was a sedan. They are basically indistinguishable from a G37 except for slightly smaller brakes and the badge on the rear. That would make more sense.

A G25 sounds like a reasonable explanation. But all comparisons aside. the FRS is a surprisingly nice vehicle. Even though I just got it, I found someone who wants to buy it. Now I am in search of a white BRZ!

Uatu13 06-25-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deki (Post 1015730)
Maybe it's your exhaust. Plus, aren't G37s like mid 15 second cars?

On a serious note, they trap 13mph higher in the 1/4 then the FR-S, even if he missed a gear, or two, he would still fly past you, especially after 70. Maybe he wasn't racing? Or maybe it was a G25 if it was a sedan. They are basically indistinguishable from a G37 except for slightly smaller brakes and the badge on the rear. That would make more sense.

He wanted to "race"; his passenger rolled down his window and made the suggestion while the driver rev'd the engine. It was a 2-door. I even let him go at green, then I decided to get on it after I got rolling. I passed him, then he passed me...that's all I know. It all happened so quick...

Uatu13 06-25-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSI:86 (Post 1015737)
Obviously the G37 was casually driving (shifting at 4k) while he was redlining. :lol:

He's the one that wanted to "race" so I'm not sure why he would drive casually.

Also, I wasn't redlining, my Rev light is set to 7k. lol

It's possible that I misread "37" on the back of that car, but it did start with a "G", this much I'm sure of. :sigh:

Deki 06-28-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uatu13 (Post 1024835)
He's the one that wanted to "race" so I'm not sure why he would drive casually.

Also, I wasn't redlining, my Rev light is set to 7k. lol

It's possible that I misread "37" on the back of that car, but it did start with a "G", this much I'm sure of. :sigh:

They only made the G25 in a 4 door so it definitely wasn't the 200hp version.

Max Schnell 06-29-2013 06:33 PM

A poor launch in any manual car can easily cost you a second in the 1/4. People like to look at magazine times. Realistically most guys running their cars on the street won't even come close to magazine times. Also some are harder than others to drag.

Enlight 06-09-2014 12:46 PM

So the FRS is gone now! I sold it and ended up picking up something with a couple more cylinders... 2 more to be exact...Oh, and they are all inline! And mmmmhmmmm is it smooth!

And Now.... The 335is w/ DCT!!!

http://i58.tinypic.com/5lpd2h.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2yy6zro.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/nv13ro.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/6ezz86.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2z6b4zt.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/dcxatx.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2sagknc.jpg

First thing that must be done on all my cars is the lights! Got a full LED interior kit ready to rock. Cant stand halogen bulbs. I'll also be figuring out a way to do away with the halogen driving lights that come on only when the car is moving. Those have got to be changed to LED as well. With factory LED rings and Xenon headlights, how could BMW leave those stupid driving lights to be halogen?!

And here is a preview of the full LED conversion!

http://i60.tinypic.com/2qjwvew.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/2danmnq.jpg

Aside from implementing lighting bliss, on the agenda for this summer is:
19" wheels/tires
Coilovers
JB4 (or Cobb)
Intake

I really dont think this car needs anything else! BMW did a great job with this car, I am quite impressed and have no complaints thus far. Scoots pretty good for being stock, haven't ripped around any corners yet but we'll see how she does on the factory RFTs.

335is vs FR-S?
Obviously these cars are NOT in the same class. The FRS being a 25k car and this one being a 60k msrp car. But we'll ignore everything but the driving experience.

The FR-S was actually quite a fun car to drive despite its lack of power. I do miss the 6 speed manual a little bit. Its much easier to be a hooligan with a manual than it is with a Dual Clutch Transmission. Also, the weight. WOW if I miss anything the most, its how light and nimble the FRS was. And how you could just throw it into corners and it did not care one bit. You feel very connected to the car and to the road.
The 335is is a very pleasant place to be. Its MUCH more comfortable, the seats are amazingly supportive, the ride is more bearable given our pot-hole infested Minnesota Roads. The engine...oh yes. It has something called TORQUE!!! and I do enjoy it. The Twin turbo I6 is suuupper smooth and it sounds quite nice as well. When pared with the DCT full throttle or on boost shifts give a nasty growl, the rev counter almost instantly drops into the next gear. I'd call it mildly addicting. The straight line fun and the noise is by far much more of an exciting experience than the FRS. But corning is a different story. Not being a full on M3 it doesn't deal with its weight nearly as well as I'd hoped. Its much more of an event taking corners in the 335is than the FRS. It says "hey your going to take 3600lbs of metal and go around that corner? I'll do it but your going to have to work for it!"

Overall i must say I'd rather be driving the 335is everyday as I do than the FRS. The roads here are so bad now its hard to find a place that you can have some fun in the corners anyways. That said, maybe some day I'll build a proper 350whp street monster FRS.

Rampage 06-09-2014 01:39 PM

I knew you would not keep the FR-S. :laughabove: I am just a little surprised it lasted as long as it did.

Enlight 06-09-2014 01:49 PM

Hey, the FRS with a set of Blizzak tires is a blast in the winter. Spent more time sideways than I did straight.

gymratter 06-09-2014 04:34 PM

i know someone that traded in a new GS350 F sport for a FRS. he said it made him feel younger when he is behind the wheel.

Enlight 06-09-2014 05:23 PM

There is something about the personality of the cars that makes the driver feel different. Well aside from all the technical differences. Thus far I have got way more complements on the FRS than I have with the bimmer. People just look at it like, eh its just another 3 series. Any maybe its just me but I feel as if I get judged instantly when driving this bmw vs the FRS. The FRS has a more playful attitude and thus gets more playful reactions from other people. The BMW is like... too serious. I'm going find a way to take off the business suite and throw on some sportswear... some how. Maybe some M3 bits, a mean set of wheels paired with a proper stance. Settle somewhere in the middle. Kung fu fighter or something.

JoeHK 06-09-2014 06:12 PM

Always liked BMW 3-series Coupes, but the FRS (or in my case GT86) just looks much more fun (like you said a more playful attitude) & in my opinion is more fun :)
But hey, too each his own and i do like your 335is, like you say, with the right amount of "stance" & a nice fat pair of wheels it'll throw the "business" right out the door ;)
I'm curious on how it's going to look in the end!

Grtz


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:32 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.