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x808drifter 12-21-2020 09:18 AM

Forgot "What oil brand/weight to use?"

wbradley 12-21-2020 09:22 AM

The trick is to post multiple questions with incomplete info then never return to the thread as it tops post #1001 of comprehensive info for every possible scenario.

x808drifter 12-21-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3394523)
The trick is to post multiple questions with incomplete info then never return to the thread as it tops post #1001 of comprehensive info for every possible scenario.

Or ask questions that have been answered infinite times before and then get butthurt when the answer isn't what you wanted to hear.

wbradley 12-21-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3394530)
Or ask questions that have been answered infinite times before and then get butthurt when the answer isn't what you wanted to hear.

Using search engines is one of those things like turn signals. No matter what you do, some people refuse to use them.

86TOYO2k17 12-21-2020 10:28 AM

how much horsepower will a light weight pulley add? 10 or 20?
If I combine it with a lightweight carbon driveshaft will I beat my neighbors mustang gt in the 1/4 mile? I heard those are good for at least 30 hp.

Ernest72 12-21-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3394519)
Let's just rip off the bandage-

What is the best ride height?
What exhaust sounds best?
Should I get winter tires?
Are roof wraps a good idea?
? Strange buzzing in dash
? Car ticking loudly
Car leaks oil....

You forgot which oil brand and weight is best. EDIT. I forgot to read the rest of the thread. Glad I am contributing so well today.

spcmafia 12-21-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3394519)
Let's just rip off the bandage-

What is the best ride height?
What exhaust sounds best?
Should I get winter tires?
Are roof wraps a good idea?
? Strange buzzing in dash
? Car ticking loudly
Car leaks oil....


Which CAI/SRI should I get? Those add like 15-20 HP right?

86TOYO2k17 12-21-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3394581)
Which CAI/SRI should I get? Those add like 15-20 HP right?

Only with a throttle body spacer

pallen 12-21-2020 04:02 PM

Nitrous is the only way...

DarkPira7e 12-21-2020 05:18 PM

You guys are way off topic.

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Precision vs Garrett?

CSG Mike 12-21-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3394114)
JRSC isn’t bad by any means. definitely been overly hyped and marketed by certain vendors on here though.

People trying to flip one of it’s biggest flaws “no torque” as a strength. You can always turn down low/mid range but JRSC can’t turn it up. And low/mid range torque is what gives you that fun hit and added power for daily driving. JRSC is basically stock below 5k then it comes to life.

Parasitic loss is about needing to make 300 crank hp to make 240whp. VS a turbo making 300 crank at 260whp or only needing 280 crank (less stress) to make the same 240whp. That is parasitic loss. Not MPG which would be impacted but who cares about a few MPG difference.

Turbo for a daily doesn’t require much heat management. For the track then 100% which is why turbo track builds are for ballers. JRSC is the best low budget FI track build.

For a pure daily a turbo is better, even more so with autos because of the gearing.

Superchargers in general are simpler than turbos. But if he either A. has tons of mechanical skill or B. is paying someone it doesn’t matter. For a entry level wrencher Supercharger is easier. Main reason i chose supercharger. But having the knowledge and skill i have now i would have turboed.

So again. Before anything can be decided OP needs to answer the below as JRSC is far from a best in any/all scenarios.

Goal?
Budget?
Car use?
Mechanical skill level?

I have a turbo tuned to a supercharger powerband.

I stopped shredding transmissions after I did that.

Just saying.

86TOYO2k17 12-21-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3394659)
I have a turbo tuned to a supercharger powerband.

I stopped shredding transmissions after I did that.

Just saying.

So your turbo has much more “tuning customization options” compared to a supercharger?
Can be turned to “kill mode” if and when you wanted, or daily, or track, or any number of maps for various octanes and circumstances?
And is probably making a decent amount less hp at the crank for the same amount of whp?

Also OP has an auto not manual. So not really relevant especially since auto is known to handle a solid 20+ ft lbs more with ease. And probably substantially more then that with trans cooler and ssp valve body.

Calum 12-21-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3394659)
I have a turbo tuned to a supercharger powerband.



I stopped shredding transmissions after I did that.



Just saying.

Dyno plot?

CSG Mike 12-21-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3394672)
So your turbo has much more “tuning customization options” compared to a supercharger?
Can be turned to “kill mode” if and when you wanted, or daily, or track, or any number of maps for various octanes and circumstances?
And is probably making a decent amount less hp at the crank for the same amount of whp?

Also OP has an auto not manual. So not really relevant especially since auto is known to handle a solid 20+ ft lbs more with ease. And probably substantially more then that with trans cooler and ssp valve body.

The turbo does not. The stuff I added beyond the kit gives me some control.

I don't have a "kill" mode. My wastegate effectively runs permanently closed, and the power i make is all i make.

A supercharger can also have any number of maps for various octanes and circumstances.


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