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Originally Posted by why? (Post 3314641)

there are nuclear power plants that can actually use up the waste so there is nothing left.

I have never heard of this ... can you give a link?

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3314765)

I have never heard of this ... can you give a link?

This one didn't leave much - :(

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3314765)

I have never heard of this ... can you give a link?

I think he was referring to thorium reactors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoriu...sible_benefits

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3314789)

I think he was referring to thorium reactors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoriu...sible_benefits

There are still fission products and nuclear waste to handle with molten salt thorium reactors. There are several companies working on developing those reactors but that is just development.

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3314941)

There are still fission products and nuclear waste to handle with molten salt thorium reactors. There are several companies working on developing those reactors but that is just development.

I agree with you, but it is semantics.

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There is much less nuclear waste—up to two orders of magnitude less, state Moir and Teller,[4] eliminating the need for large-scale or long-term storage;[14]:13 "Chinese scientists claim that hazardous waste will be a thousand times less than with uranium."[23] The radioactivity of the resulting waste also drops down to safe levels after just a one or a few hundred years, compared to tens of thousands of years needed for current nuclear waste to cool off.

Thorium fuel cycle is a potential way to produce long term nuclear energy with low radio-toxicity waste. In addition, the transition to thorium could be done through the incineration of weapons grade plutonium (WPu) or civilian plutonium.

Conferences with experts from as many as 32 countries are held, including one by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) in 2013, which focuses on thorium as an alternative nuclear technology without requiring production of nuclear waste.

If the nuclear waste is a few percentage of what is applied versus the majority of what was applied, and the waste is less radioactive (thus, can’t be weaponized) and is neutral after a hundred years versus 100,000 years then it is basically zero. It is like someone stealing all $100,000 of your life savings and all your property in your house, and you say, “they stole everything”, but your friend points out you still have a hundred bucks hidden in your jacket, and you have that jar of loose change in the cupboard. You do this :bonk: :slap:

We should see reactors switching to thorium or new plants going online anytime now.

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Originally Posted by IceFyre13th (Post 3315135)

Mr. Fusion

Available for your 2015 home and flying car. :laughabove:

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3315010)

new plants going online anytime now.

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I guess I'm one of those plants. This is my most favorite channel nowadays:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RPE-_eFBOw[/ame]

Don't blame me. I've always wanted to study physics, I just couldn't because of a stupid, complicated, long and sad story. So I satisfy myself watching these things.

Reading does not help when you are lost in translation:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inPcQeYWVT8[/ame]

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Originally Posted by korhun (Post 3315186)

I guess I'm one of those plants. This is my most favorite channel nowadays

He is a little too juvenile for me like an episode of Blue's Clues, but the information is cool.

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3315192)

He is a little too juvenile for me like an episode of Blue's Clues, but the information is cool.

I agree; also find him annoying sometimes. But when you get used to his stupid jokes, it becomes some much fun :)

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3313901)

as a prior navy Nuke, I am fine with this

just so we are straight, if anyone peers into the core and says "the power of the sun, is in my hands"

They will be shot on sight

From Spider-Man, the quote is' "The power of the sun in the palm of my hands". Doc Oc says it.
How do I know?

It's a quote on my Spider-Man pinball machine. LOL

I beat the crap out of that machine so bad I dare not go back and play again for another year.

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A new technology scientists are calling “power balls” could revolutionize nuclear power plants by allowing for much higher temperatures without a meltdown incident. The secret? Tiny seeds of uranium that are layered with protective coating, ensuring they stay cool at temperatures up to and exceeding 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Triso (tristructural isotope) particles are like tiny Everlasting Gobstoppers of nuclear fuel. A core of uranium and oxygen is coated with layers of protective ceramic and graphite. The ceramic (silicon carbide) has been used for a century to make things like sandpaper and ceramic automobile brakes. It’s extremely heat-tolerant and is also used in construction of furnaces and as a heat-resistant shielding in LEDs.

The grains are made with processes that sound like the food science people pull out on Top Chef. First, uranium is mixed with a chemical that allows it to break into gummy beads just a millimeter across—like the microplastic beads you might find in a face wash. In a special oven, the beads are contact-coated with graphite that’s made to collapse from its gas form into solid layers. Then, thousands of these chocolate-coated uranium Dippin’ Dots are packed into individual pellets.

A company called BWXT is the major pusher for these micro uranium gobstoppers, which it’s also testing with a government-sponsored 3D-printed nuclear reactor. The other company is X-energy, whose TRISO-X FUEL can be seen in the images in this article.

Within a nuclear power plant context, the grains of protected uranium simply can’t melt down, proponents say. In a traditional fission reactor like the ones used today, fuel allowed to heat out of control will eventually cook itself into a meltdown. If that meltdown escalates, the heat can destroy the protective measures in place around the reactor. Instead, the tiny power granules have their own deescalation process built in.

Existing plants have redundant and extreme safety systems, but there’s a human and programming element in these plants that can go wrong in a way that maxes out all the containment and redundancy. The scientists pushing “power balls” say their inherently safe nature means these next-generation plants don’t need costly containment in the same way, which could save time and money.

For decades, nuclear authorities around the world have built larger and larger power plants. The impulse makes sense, because especially in China, huge plants are a way to provide a ton of power for 160 cities that have at least one million people. Nuclear is environmentally cleaner, at least today, and replaces or supplements coal-firing plants that are increasingly out of step on the global stage. But the larger the traditional fission plant, the more elaborate the safety procedures and structures must be.

In decades of nuclear power, there have been very few partial or full meltdown events, but the extreme damage and enduring poisoning these events cause has cast a shadow over any nuclear power. The 2011 meltdown at Fukushima in Japan was induced by an earthquake, which could happen almost anywhere in some form. In China, there are dozens of individual reactors that are multiple times larger in output than the reactors at Fukushima, and many of these are positioned in clusters at major power plants.

The next generation of nuclear power reactors is modular and much smaller than traditional plants, with no need to design a brand new, sprawling facility from the ground up on a huge tract of rural land. But much remains to be proven before these plants can be built.