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mrg666 11-19-2019 08:00 PM

How long this SUV craze will last?

Dadhawk 11-19-2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3276802)
If I slapped a Mustang emblem on a pickup truck does that make it a Mustang? .

No it would be a Clydesdale...hmmm maybe Ford could use the name assuming no one still owns the trademark..

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/10...g?v=1560227626

Sapphireho 11-19-2019 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3276817)
How long this SUV craze will last?

They were first station wagons. Sure, a lot went 4wd, some like international, jeep, and Chevy did it early, but still just a station wagon.

Then the next generation came and didn't want the old station wagon, so we renamed them.

Just the old station wagon.

Boring.

Sapphireho 11-19-2019 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3276818)
No it would be a Clydesdale...hmmm maybe Ford could use the name assuming no one still owns the trademark..

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/10...g?v=1560227626

I want one now.

reni 11-19-2019 09:10 PM

Seems like a total cock-up in terms of marketing.

Mustang = old-school gas-guzzling V-8

Electric car buyers = want to feel "holier than thou" compared to petrol-burning drivers


Calling this new thing a "Mustang" doesn't seems like it wouldn't appeal to either.

HKz 11-19-2019 09:49 PM

admittedly it looks alright, at least in comparison to other CUV/SUVish EVs....and even though everyone has already mentioned this, I feel like I need to also poke fun of the name. The Mach-E name was fine on its own but adding Mustang is so desperate to me when it has absolutely no ties to a 2 door sports/muscle car lol... Guess Ford thinks it won't be that big of a hit so they need every desperate marketing ploy possible and a well timed "leak" to generate hype..smh..

dowroa 11-19-2019 11:09 PM

I just want to know this...

If this is a "Mustang", does that mean the fleet average for all "Mustangs" now include this EV EPA rating as well as the ICE "Mustangs"?

If so, that sounds like a winner in the game of emissions.

Irace86.2.0 11-20-2019 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dowroa (Post 3276851)
I just want to know this...

If this is a "Mustang", does that mean the fleet average for all "Mustangs" now include this EV EPA rating as well as the ICE "Mustangs"?

If so, that sounds like a winner in the game of emissions.

In general, EVs will save ICEs. They will lower emission averages and raise fuel economy averages across fleets while reducing the demand/cost of fuel. This allows manufacturers to meet their mandates.

Will BRZ 11-20-2019 12:52 AM

[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OXNHsaE7_fc[/ame]

Man this guy got it. Don’t really like posting videos like this on here, but I think he summed it up perfectly in this video.

Captain Snooze 11-20-2019 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3276510)
Yeah I dont get the mustang association...


That part reminds me of the new-ish Porsche Taycan. The "slow" one is called "Taycan Turbo" and the faster one is called "Taycan Turbo S". Porsche says it has nothing to do with a model having a turbo or not but is a model classifier. That is, if the model has Turbo in its name then it is fast and calling a model Turbo S means it's even faster regardless that the Taycan is an all electric vehicle.


Good ol' marketing department.

dowroa 11-20-2019 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3276868)
In general, EVs will save ICEs. They will lower emission averages and raise fuel economy averages across fleets while reducing the demand/cost of fuel. This allows manufacturers to meet their mandates.

Right, but I think there is a mandate that each "model" must also meet standards with exceptions only allowed for very specific reasons.

I will look this up later to provide more facts.

However, if it is the case that the exception cannot be used (or not desired to be used) for the "Mustang" any longer, then just throw in something that will get 150 eMPG into the same model and bam -- you have satisfied the `rules`.

I think there is more to the naming than just word-of-mouth hype.

Dadhawk 11-20-2019 07:24 AM

Of course, it's not like Ford hasn't done something similar in the past. The Thunderbird is a good example. What started off as a nice two-door sports car/roadster eventually became a 4 door behemoth. They scaled it up basically to protect the Mustang so maybe what goes around comes around.

At least the 4-door Thunderbird had suicide doors, so there was some redeeming coolness in that.

Lantanafrs2 11-20-2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3276868)
In general, EVs will save ICEs. They will lower emission averages and raise fuel economy averages across fleets while reducing the demand/cost of fuel. This allows manufacturers to meet their mandates.

Low oil prices are helping ice as well

bcj 11-20-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3276899)
Of course, it's not like Ford hasn't done something similar in the past. The Thunderbird is a good example. What started off as a nice two-door sports car/roadster eventually became a 4 door behemoth. They scaled it up basically to protect the Mustang so maybe what goes around comes around.

At least the 4-door Thunderbird had suicide doors, so there was some redeeming coolness in that.

In '58? Wait, wut?

https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.hage...hunderbird.jpg


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