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Summerwolf 09-17-2018 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3134358)
They are not, other than the CS400. The CS400 was primarily made as an A350 alternative for RHD cars, as the space available was different. There is now a RHD variant of the A350, with different routing but similar results, which obsoletes the CS400 for all intents and purposes.
That's what I thought. So unless ft86speedfactory or some other vendor has some new old stock there is no way to get the "b" type new.

Any special deals to clear out the cs400, lol. Or are they still producing it regularly?

86TOYO2k17 09-17-2018 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3134366)
That's what I thought. So unless ft86speedfactory or some other vendor has some new old stock there is no way to get the "b" type new.

Any special deals to clear out the cs400, lol. Or are they still producing it regularly?
Multiple vendors still have 250 type B in stock. Generally they buy in bulk and will have new stock saved up even after production stops. So currently you can still buy new 250 type B for 1350$ or even 150 type B for 1180$. Ace appears to have stopped production of the type B. But still a lot of stock out there people can pick up.

Summerwolf 09-17-2018 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3134389)
Multiple vendors still have 250 type B in stock. Generally they buy in bulk and will have new stock saved up even after production stops. So currently you can still buy new 250 type B for 1350$ or even 150 type B for 1180$. Ace appears to have stopped production of the type B. But still a lot of stock out there people can pick up.
Do the websites show in stock, or have you called and confirmed? I haven't heard of anyone having a type b setup in stock for quite a while now.

JDLAutoDesign 09-17-2018 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gtengr (Post 3133555)
Visually the early merge of the second collector location makes me think it would more closely compete with the Ace A150. The JDL probably needs an overpipe and the Ace includes one so that should be factored into the cost.
Secondaries are definitely longer than the Ace150...quite a bit.

Ace 150
https://counterspacegarage.r.worldss.../421a150_1.jpg

JDL 4-2-1
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...51&oe=5C28001F
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=5C30865D
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...3c&oe=5C349D58

86TOYO2k17 09-17-2018 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3134399)
Do the websites show in stock, or have you called and confirmed? I haven't heard of anyone having a type b setup in stock for quite a while now.
The sites say in stock and can be purchased. I have not personally reached out to ask if they are actually in stock or if you will receive an email/refund after purchase saying no longer available etc... Seems like they would update website to reflect discontinued or out of stock, if it was no longer available. I purchased my 250 B about 8-9months ago.

Either way I almost purchased the JDL EL header as it seemed to pretty much be the second best header at a good price point, But then saw the ace 250 was barely more money and showed substantial gains. Personally I don’t see the point in not getting the best of each part available. But wouldnt be surprised if JDLs new EL design was now on par with ace. :cheers:

tehShirt 09-17-2018 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3134145)
Can someone post a link or screenshot that is not instagram?!?!

I updated the first post with their instagram of the dyno plot.



Also updated the first post with info from JDL.

Yoshoobaroo 09-17-2018 09:33 PM
Good info on the original post.

Definitely would be interested in a group buy!

JBezugs 09-17-2018 09:49 PM
Would definitely be interested in a group buy. Very exciting to see another long tube header option for us that arent big UEL fans! The ACE is prohibitively expensive for us Canadians.

jflogerzi 09-17-2018 10:26 PM
I would be interested in a group buy if priced well and we could get a decent oft tune for it

Yoshoobaroo 09-17-2018 10:45 PM
JDL 4-2-1 EL header
 
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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3134480)
I would be interested in a group buy if priced well and we could get a decent oft tune for it

OFT VVT tables have been made public for most headers, this one can probably get a good start with the ACE VVT tables.

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Originally Posted by JBezugs (Post 3134476)
Would definitely be interested in a group buy. Very exciting to see another long tube header option for us that arent big UEL fans!
And a long tube header that retains the resonator on the intake tube!

PulsarBeeerz 09-17-2018 10:50 PM
As much as I like the Ace headers I already have an overpipe/front pipe combo so their setup doesn't work for me unless I redo the entire exhaust. The new JDL header on the other hand looks to fit the bill. Certainly down for a group buy.

AYO 09-18-2018 05:18 AM
Strange this would be my first post. Hi everybody! Put me on that grp buy if it materializes.

solidONE 09-18-2018 03:21 PM
Yummy gains in torque

Prodigalson 09-18-2018 03:42 PM
Also interested in a group buy if it comes about.


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