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ftw-86 05-17-2011 04:22 PM

They can take away the vents but give me the lines!

xravexboix 05-17-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ftw-86 (Post 41992)
Toyota and Subaru already have plants here in America.

Make the sheet metal here with parts shipped from Japan. (Engine, chassis, etc)

Take a look at the Honda Accord before they brought it over as the TSX.
We got the big V6/I4 American Accord while Japan and Europe got the Euro Accord which was smaller with a four banger.

Since it's a low production unit, it will be made in Japan. The plants in Japan are capable in pumping out multiple vehicles at once (3-6 different ones per plant, and they can build a Crown next to a Estima w/o issue) while the US plants are specialized for specific vehicles. I think the newest plant they are building in the US will be able to be versatile like the most modern plants in Japan, but it's definitely not happening soon.

ichitaka05 05-17-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kawazydude (Post 42017)
i REALLY hope the mule we're seeing will not be the final production version in the us b/c it's looks a lot more like the mkII than it does the FRS. WHAT THE HECK? did toyota not realize that most people didn't really like the mkII, but that everyone was drooling over the FRS? man. seriously, i hope toyota doesn't disappoint us.

iirc when we did MkI vs MkII vote, didn't MkII win?

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Originally Posted by Dark (Post 42018)
On all these pics, what I expect the remain is the badge. :bellyroll::bellyroll:
I think the weld area where the front badge located will stay there. I also expected the headlight to remain the same shape( lose the gimmick LED and showcar light for regular projector). Is that too much, Ichi?

Hm... not sure bout the headlight shape. IDK either and can't guarantee anything.

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Originally Posted by ftw-86 (Post 42019)
They can take away the vents but give me the lines!

Hm... that's gonna be hard, if they take away the vents near the hood, they gotta raise the front, so it doesn't look weird.

Over all, it's kinda funny to see how much thumbs down we're getting. It's kinda funny to see ppl are not figuring out why they're using MkII style for the test run. Now, these are my speculation.
  1. Since MkI had a bit of complain/feedback from the driver they had to modify the chassis/pillar and they fixed it w MkII
  2. Now, FR-S is shown, MkII became older model/concept. Which equal to use em as test car. Instead of welded parts together Impreza test car to figure how it actually drive.
  3. MkI had 2 different designs: regular NA ver & Turbo ver (g's). Where's MkII's second ver? (well I guess, that can be said for MkIII).
  4. Instead of using FiveAxis designed overdone FR-S as test car at the nur, it's reasonable to use MkII to finalize suspension/brake/engine/tranny/etc setup. Be honest here, MkIII looks awesome, but there's no way, that thing gonna be used as test car.
  5. Lastly, prob did it for hell of it. :)

Dark 05-17-2011 04:52 PM

^^Now you're showing us some clues. LOL
That could be like what you said because FT-86 II debuted in EU and this car is tested in EU. They probably use the very similar body to the final car to test the aerodynamic and what not.

Niche79 05-17-2011 04:56 PM

I hope toyota sticks with the II vs the FRS scion, thats a selling point alone!

RRnold 05-17-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 42015)
Did you expect these to stay too?

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Originally Posted by Flip (Post 42000)
Okay, so no one obviously was expecting the diffuser or the brakes or the bumpers. That kind of stuff five axis probably did. That doesn't mean the overall body shape isn't going to remain.

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Originally Posted by ftw-86 (Post 42019)
They can take away the vents but give me the lines!

+1

I really liked the Five Axis version a lot but we can't really expect too much of that concept to merge into the final production; wide body fenders, lood and door lines, hood vents, side skirts, lower fender ducts, flat trunk etc.

It seemed like a joint effort between the 2 and thats it.

Random_Art 05-17-2011 05:22 PM

as long as it looks more angry than derpy, I'm good

iff2mastamatt 05-17-2011 05:24 PM

^ Never saw that sculpted photo. Nice find!

ichitaka05 05-17-2011 05:27 PM

^It's on the fiveaxis site

kawazydude 05-17-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 42025)
iirc when we did MkI vs MkII vote, didn't MkII win?

check the poll again, MkI vs MkII vs FRS. the FRS is winning by a LANDSLIDE.

ichitaka05 05-17-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kawazydude (Post 42039)
check the poll again, MkI vs MkII vs FRS. the FRS is winning by a LANDSLIDE.

Yes, I know FR-S won. I was talking bout MkI vs MkII

JDMike 05-17-2011 05:35 PM

My vote goes for FRS. I like the body likes but not intrigued by the vents.

kawazydude 05-17-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 42040)
Yes, I know FR-S won. I was talking bout MkI vs MkII

Actually, i jus looked at the poll again. And the Mk1 has almost 3 times more votes than the MkII (23 to 8). For your convenience, here's the link: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/poll....ults&pollid=58.

But the MkI has nothing to do with this. My point is that the mule looks like the MkII (which everyone would agree on) when I wished it looked like the FRS (which has 76 votes btw).

iff2mastamatt 05-17-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kawazydude (Post 42044)
Actually, i jus looked at the poll again. And the Mk1 has almost 3 times more votes than the MkII (23 to 8). For your convenience, here's the link: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/poll....ults&pollid=58.

But the MkI has nothing to do with this. My point is that this mule looks like the MkII (which everyone would agree on) when I wished it looked like the FRS (which has 76 votes btw).

No, there was a pole before this one with just the MKI and MKII. The MKII had more votes by a decent margin.


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