My BestCar quote above was from a good while ago, so I think they've changed their plans since then to what we're seeing now. It sounds like the price is up, but hopefully not more than DOUBLE what they were aming at! Someone was saying $30,000, but the quote from the man in charge said something like "This car won't sell if it's $30,000," so I really doubt they're trying to compete with the 370z's higher-priced market share. Also, I'm hoping that they really stuck to their weight goal, despite all the changes made to the concept along the way.

The guy with the white shirt isn't too far bent over, and the roofline is just above his waist - that's a good sign. I'm guessing the picture was taken in Japan - and further guessing he's of Japanese descent, therefore he may not be as tall as the avg american male (5' 10"). Meaning... it'll be good and low in the land of giant SUVs.

Anyone else notice the slight 'swan' effect the doors have? I know Aston Martin's have a similar effect where the doors don't swing open 100% horizontally, but actually angle up away from the ground a bit. Interesting.

seeing how my yaris hb is around 2300lbs, my hope is the ft will be 2600 or less

A yaris is smaller right?

Well, considering that my 07 Civic Si is about 2800lbs and my 07 Mini Cooper is about 2500lbs and that the FT86 is a little smaller then the Si but a little bigger then the Mini... The FT86 should weight no more then 2700lbs.

My Si is a decent performing and fun car for a FWD economy based sporty car, so Im guessing/hoping that a slightly lighter FT86 with about the same hp/tq specifications would be even more fun to drive.

You forgot to mention the fact that your car wouldn't be wrong wheel drive anymore.

Yes, I did. The Si is still an excellent handling car for a FWD. Its been about 15 years since Ive had a RWD car, so it will be a nice change if I get an FT.

Same here. My last RWD was a '79 Firebird with a 6.6 liter engine. It would just go sideways in the rain. Snow and ice were terrifying :D

Hm... My guess is around 2700~2750ish.
I own '00 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS (coupe) and it weight around 2800ish... so I don't see why it gotta weight more than my RS.

Here's comparison between my RS spec, friend's AP1 & 086A spec I read in 7tune.com
Oh and I've convert the measurements to Inches instead of mm, hope you don't mind.

Wheelbase
RS - 99.2
S2 - 94.5
FT - 97.2

Overall Length
RS - 172.2
S2 - 162.2
FT - 165.4

Width
RS - 67.1
S2 - 68.9
FT - 68.9

So I from this spec, I'm just guessing it'll be around 2700~2750ish.

the yaris is 1ft shorter but 1ft higher, 3 inches skinnier, 4 inch smaller wheelbase

for weight speculation- i mapped an overlay of the yaris onto the ft86; here's what it looks like.

yaris: 2300lbs, 1.3, 1.5, 1.8L i4
i'm pretty sure after looking at this the car couldn't weigh more than 2600, maybe it will even be closer to 2500 lbs...
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...=2&pictureid=3

Small indeed - the S2000 comes in @ ~2800 lbs (AP1). I was a little curious as to what made the AP1 slightly on the heavier side despite its small size. Probably safety features, modern technology, etc.

AP1 = S2K chassis? If so, it's probably the lack of a roof. No roof means more body structural support, adding weight.

The convertable version of every car is pretty much always heavier than it's coupe counterpart.

Yep -- 2600 - 2700 lbs sounds about right.

Yeap, AP1 = S2K chassis. That makes sense about that structural support - they had to do a lot to make frame pretty rigid.

I'd place my bets with your estimate :)

My 05 Accent is 2300lb and it's 3" longer and 6" taller than the FT86. I'd be shocked it this car weighs more than 2500Lb.