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-   -   Opinions on new alignment/help with turning issue (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116864)

Ultramaroon 03-25-2017 02:26 PM
Ok, OP. Mixed in with our usual ribbing are some valuable observations. Let us know which parts make sense and which, if any, leave you scratching your head. :thumbsup:

humfrz 03-25-2017 03:49 PM
Maybe the OP went and turned off all the nannies and took that 40 degree (C or F ...??) at 60 mph and is now doing laundry ..... :iono:


humfrz

Tcoat 03-25-2017 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2879001)
Yeah! What he said. Duh.

Besides, isn't it Strat's turn? Nobody likes a pedant.
This one is sort of cool

http://www.wrenchheadjewelry.com/upl...080109.jpg?392

Oh wait...

Ultramaroon 03-25-2017 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2879145)
Maybe the OP went and turned off all the nannies and took that 40 degree (C or F ...??) at 60 mph and is now doing laundry ..... :iono:z
104F?

cmurp96 03-25-2017 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2878971)
This ol boy would like some clarification.

Are you saying the turn is a 60 degree curve (flat) OR a 60 degree (banked) curve ..... ??


humfrz
Its a flat 40 degree turn at 60mph

cmurp96 03-25-2017 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by finch1750 (Post 2879009)
You have no camber and take it to the track? I would imagine you understeer like mad and the outside edge takes a crazy beating.

Also, new tires take a bit to burn the grease off. Plus, the car doesnt like the different aged tires front and rear. I ran tires like that for a while and had terrible time with the TC til I replaced all 4 then it went away. Not sure if its due to varying size or the levels of grip

I'm also gonna go with there is likely an input somewhere (helping) cause this.
How much camber should I have?
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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2879046)
Pro tip: the 96 in his user name probably stands for 1996, which means he's a young buck full of hubris and ready to make bad decisions.

I also doubt that the track experience is real, if it was, I'm sure he'd have a far better idea of what's going on mid-turn. Doubly hard to believe he tracks given that alignment, didn't realize understeery alignments were so good for track days.
The 96 refers to the year I graduated from VT. No advice, no need to comment

cmurp96 03-25-2017 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2879128)
Ok, OP. Mixed in with our usual ribbing are some valuable observations. Let us know which parts make sense and which, if any, leave you scratching your head. :thumbsup:
For the mos part it seems the car i just not made for this, the only other suggestion was to mess with the camber which idk what to put it at and front or back? Not very specific. I also had this problem before new tires so its not that

cmurp96 03-25-2017 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2879046)
Pro tip: the 96 in his user name probably stands for 1996, which means he's a young buck full of hubris and ready to make bad decisions.

I also doubt that the track experience is real, if it was, I'm sure he'd have a far better idea of what's going on mid-turn. Doubly hard to believe he tracks given that alignment, didn't realize understeery alignments were so good for track days.
I have also said i am not where near a professional. is it not okay for me and some friends to do daily track driving? No reason for me to lie. WHatis wrong with my alignment, it is in specs?

finch1750 03-25-2017 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cmurp96 (Post 2879230)
How much camber should I have?


The 96 refers to the year I graduated from VT. No advice, no need to comment
The second post here is a starting point based on peoples set-ups

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103609

Ultramaroon 03-25-2017 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cmurp96 (Post 2879233)
For the mos part it seems the car i just not made for this, the only other suggestion was to mess with the camber which idk what to put it at and front or back? Not very specific. I also had this problem before new tires so its not that
Alignment is acceptable, IMO. My gut says you're just overdriving the car.

1. What car have you driven that does what the frs doesn't do?

2. When the VSC kicks in, which end is letting go?

3. What's the outside temperature when you are driving

4. What's your tire pressure. If they're not even, tweak them and try again.

navanodd 03-26-2017 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cmurp96 (Post 2878934)
No I called Toyota to do it about a months ago and they would not do it bc they do not "recommend it" :(
They wouldn't do it? Give Subaru a call then. Surprised to see a shop refuse a simple job like that.

I changed mine at about 25,000 km. Before changing, the LSD did not engage smoothly at all, it was like an on-off switch. Afterwards it was much more progressive, with a lot less tire squeal.

I'm up to around 45,000 km on the car now, and the LSD still works great, so I think the issue was more down to diff gears wearing in than short fluid life.

FR-Sky 03-26-2017 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by navanodd (Post 2879374)
They wouldn't do it? Give Subaru a call then. Surprised to see a shop refuse a simple job like that.

I changed mine at about 25,000 km. Before changing, the LSD did not engage smoothly at all, it was like an on-off switch. Afterwards it was much more progressive, with a lot less tire squeal.

I'm up to around 45,000 km on the car now, and the LSD still works great, so I think the issue was more down to diff gears wearing in than short fluid life.
I agreed with you...it is always better to keep your oil/fluid fresh....
My dealership actually told me to flush my brake fluid when my car only has 19000 miles...There is no way to refuse a simple job where they can make big money....you know...dealership..

guybo 03-26-2017 07:28 AM
OP, are you sure you're not bottoming out the suspension or getting some bad rubbing? You are lowered, bigger than stock tires and that's a lot of load in that corner. Have you tried returning to stock springs just for a test?

cmurp96 03-27-2017 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by guybo (Post 2879420)
OP, are you sure you're not bottoming out the suspension or getting some bad rubbing? You are lowered, bigger than stock tires and that's a lot of load in that corner. Have you tried returning to stock springs just for a test?
I had thought about this bc i never had the problem before new tires and lowering which was over a year ago. But i also did not drive my car as hard as I do now either. DOnt have the money to put springs back on lol but thanks for the suggestion


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