Mixed driving I get 31 mpg and on the highway I get 36 mpg

I live in an area that's mostly flat. The hills are low and long. They take little effort to go up and end in a lot of coasting. I've also ceramic coated my engine to reduce friction and have a fluidampr to reduce losses through crankshaft vibration. Don't currently have proof of my mpg at those number right now as it is cold as fuck.

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What in or on the engine did you ceramic coat ......??


humfrz

On a 2017?

Yes a 2017. https://www.cermastore.com/engine-tr...sel-autos.html

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Well now, Somerandom, since you have already poured that stuff in your oil, I won't poo-poo it.

However, even IF it does reduce friction in a new engine, I just don't believe it would be statistically significant.

As far as your exceptionally good gas mileage, you may wish to try to validate that come spring time, by measuring your mileage the old fashioned way (miles driven divided by gallons consumed ..... like figured with paper and pencil).......:)


humfrz

I've ran it in my last 3 cars 1 was a 2000 with 75k then a 2015 with 5k and then this one. All of which had noticable improvements in gas milage (more so on the 2000) as well as how quickly the engine revs. The 2015 was turboed and the turbo spooled about 500 rpm sooner then before the treatment. http://ceramiclubricationtech.com/Cerma_Tests.html I don't care what haters say, it works. It doesn't do miracles, it just helps protect and smooth engine operation. It's a one time treatment so it's not like you're throwing $90 extra at your car every oil change.

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I wonder why the vehicle manufactures don't add that to their car's engines when they are first filled with oil ...... :popcorn:


humfrz

Because the treatment would stick to the imperfections within the engine that are normally worn down during the "break-in" period and harden them. It says clearly not to use the treatment until after the manufacturers recommended break in period. You obviously know nothing of this product and are just trying to start arguments for fun. :popcorn:

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Thanks for answering my question.


humfrz

Did you run exactly the same cars at exactly the same times under exactly the same conditions to determine there was a difference?
The turbo spooled sooner because of an additive?
You know what ceramics really are and how they are applied?
The "tests" shown by the manufacturer are your proof?

https://wranglertjforum.com/attachme...rg_-jpeg.1375/

Nice use of the word "haters" as a pre-emptive strike for anybody that try's to tell you the truth about that stuff.

This "certificate" IS ONE OF THE FUNNISEST FUCKING THINGS I HAVE EVER SEEN AND 100% MADE UP bullshit.
https://www.cermastore.com/images/do...TV_Program.pdf

http://ceramiclubricationtech.com/Cerma_Tests.html The turbo spools faster because of the reduced friction same concept behind why it improves gas mileage.

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Ya right.

•* Protects New, Revives old
•* Restores Engine and Transmission Performance
•* Increases Horsepower & Torque
•* Increases Compression
•* Fuel Economy (4.2 to 21 % as Tested)
•* Reduces Emission Gases (92% as Tested)
•* Stops Carbon Deposits
•* Prevents Hydrogen Embrittlement Damage
•* Reduced Engine Vibration and Noise (Harmonics)
•* Stops Cold Start Problems. (Tested to -40 Deg.)
•* STM-3 is 100% Active Ingredient
•* Cerma STM-3 is 100% Organic


They can't even get their facts straight on how long they have "tested" the stuff.

"STM-3 has evolved from over 7 years of real world testing & use"
"All claims are based on five years of independent third party,& real world testing"
"All information stated above is based on 12 years of real data"

PT Barnum was right!

I like how you're bashing the time it's been tested. How about reading through all the actual tests on the site. Not that I care, you've already made up your mind. I used this stuff in a whim because why not. It ended up making a noticable improvement in how my cars ran. Now I try to recommend it to others as it may provide them with results as well. You've convinced yourself it does nothing so don't use it. Anyone who actually tries it will tell you otherwise.

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