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-   -   I don't want a drop. I dont track my car. Any benefit from coilovers for me? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100202)

White64Goat 01-19-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2513379)
18x9.5 wheels won't make your ride any smoother. 9.5 widths will poke unless you add camber, which won't really work without coilovers.

and........the shorter the sidewall.........the stiffer the ride as well.

chaoskaze 01-19-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2514272)
Dunno, I haven't tried them all, I have Bilstein B14s and would say they're on par with stock, definitely not noticeably better.

They're good on small surface irregularities but bad on big bumps so you probably wouldn't like them.

Edit: I've heard mixed things about budget twins, this forum has an echo chamber when it comes to them so there's a lot of positivity with the brand (and fortune auto) but that's just armchair quarter backing.

Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup: Was looking @ B14

chaoskaze 01-19-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2513989)
I'm not looking for just any concave wheels though. I specifically like the 57c6 and those dont get concave until 9.5"

The other route I'm considering is 57DR in 17 or 18x9, those wouldn't require coilovers.

(The following isnt directed at you specficially, jawn)

I'm just trying to figure out: are there any benefits of me (someone who mainly drives on the street) getting high quality coilovers, and will the ride feel better than stock?

Only like three or four people have answered the actual question so far -.-
At least I'm being honest about not having any actual technical need for coilovers or higher power. But jeez, seems like I shoulda just acted like I auto-x so I could get real responses about suspension options.


Don't go 9.5 most ppl can't see it anyway. + 9.5 really don't fit the front O.o if you just want look.... do staggered wheel... O.o like 8.5 front 9.5 rear with lowering spring...:thumbsup: you said you don't track anyway.

But then again u said you don't wanna lower the car? Those wheel will look ridiculous without lowering.

jawn 01-19-2016 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2514336)
But then again u said you don't wanna lower the car? Those wheel will look ridiculous without lowering.

Also this.

PandaSPUR 01-19-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2514336)
Don't go 9.5 most ppl can't see it anyway. + 9.5 really don't fit the front O.o if you just want look.... do staggered wheel... O.o like 8.5 front 9.5 rear with lowering spring...:thumbsup: you said you don't track anyway.

But then again u said you don't wanna lower the car? Those wheel will look ridiculous without lowering.

The 9.5" is noticable with 57c6 wheels since the design gets concave at 9.5". But yea, if I go with any other wheel, I'd prob just got 8.5-9" all around.

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2514355)
Also this.

Well I just dont want the body of my car any lower than it already is. So if it looks weird going to 18"s without a drop, then I would drop the same amount that the 18"s raised my car I guess? Not sure if that makes sense.

Right now 17x9" 57DRs with meaty tires sound more cost effective for me lol. Fits stock suspension, and shouldn't look too weird with stock height.

jawn 01-19-2016 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2514391)
The 9.5" is noticable with 57c6 wheels since the design gets concave at 9.5". But yea, if I go with any other wheel, I'd prob just got 8.5-9" all around.



Well I just dont want the body of my car any lower than it already is. So if it looks weird going to 18"s without a drop, then I would drop the same amount that the 18"s raised my car I guess? Not sure if that makes sense.

Right now 17x9" 57DRs with meaty tires sound more cost effective for me lol. Fits stock suspension, and shouldn't look too weird with stock height.

With correctly sized tires, the 18s are going to raise your car much, if at all. I haven't looked at diameters recently, but it should be pretty close.

More importantly, 18x9.5 +40 wheels will extend past your fenders at stock ride height.

fumanchu1 01-19-2016 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2513379)
18x9.5 wheels won't make your ride any smoother. 9.5 widths will poke unless you add camber, which won't really work without coilovers.

Tiny poke is good poke though

strat61caster 01-19-2016 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2514322)
Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup: Was looking @ B14

I think they're a good DD + lowering setup with potential to be competent in performance oriented tasks. But OP doesn't want lower and they're not more comfortable than stock AND they don't have narrower springs so they don't help the clearance issue, so not really applicable to the thread. They get left out of most conversations around here because there isn't a vendor pushing them, they don't have XX way adjustable that a bunch of others have in the same price range, and again don't help clearance. They also don't go super low so the niche that actually wants them is small, the people who would like them I think is larger but, again, not marketed well.

I post a bit more about them here if you like:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=14

bfrank1972 01-19-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2514272)
Dunno, I haven't tried them all, I have Bilstein B14s and would say they're on par with stock, definitely not noticeably better.

They're good on small surface irregularities but bad on big bumps so you probably wouldn't like them.

Edit: I've heard mixed things about budget teins, this forum has an echo chamber when it comes to them so there's a lot of positivity with the brand (and fortune auto) but that's just armchair quarter backing.

Armchair quarterbacking? Make that claim after you own a set of the Teins please. I drive in CT, and occasionally NY roads (don't make it into the city much anymore). I *currently have* Tein Street Flex, predecessor to the Flex Z/A, has slightly higher spring rates than the Z. They're somewhat firmer than stock, but more comfortable over bumps. I'd chalk this up to better dampers. Just because you 'hear' some bad reviews doesn't mean we're armchair quarterbacking...

strat61caster 01-19-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bfrank1972 (Post 2514537)
Armchair quarterbacking? Make that claim after you own a set of the Teins please.

"armchair quarterbacking" was in reference to my statements about mixed reviews and the echo chamber of positivity on this forum because I have no first hand experience, not to reviews like yours.

Glad you're happy with them.


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