I think people drive them and bitch and whine about them because they really want straight line power and have no idea what to do with a balanced sports car. These people should be driving Mustangs.

First, some of you chill & thanks for some of you for keeping it calm.

Back on topic.
I'm pretty sure everyone have their preference on that engine they want. It could be I4 NA like 4AG or F20C, it could be big torque VQ37 or maybe want infinite power feel like 2J or RB. Not sure what's "real" engine or what's "fake" engine, cuz I'm not engineer... but it's all comes down to how "you" can use that every bit of power for your "need" from the engine. It doesn't matter what type of engine; rotary, boxer, V, Inline, or crazy jet engine, if you cannot use the full potential of that engine to maximize your driving, that engine is just a dead weight.

I'm trying to be fair. Maybe you like the V-engine tq curve or I6 turbo feel more than FA20 and I don't see any issue with that. There are countless reason to like this car/engine... at the same time, there are countless reason to hate this car/engine. If you don't feel like this car/engine, don't waste your time and money and find the car that you like to drive, instead of reading through some trollers/fan boys.

As for me, this car and engine is working just fine. Autox for 2 years and working perfectly. Have enough power to make me smile every time I drive it.

Be careful what you wish for... you might get a bunch of FRZzzzzs on your ass.

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But...but...but...just watch that thing pull away in the straights. And it is practically an antique.

Sure:

Lets start with the most subjective bit: Don't like the looks with the hood open. Looks like someone tossed all their spare engine parts in a box.

Sounds like a constipated tractor at idle.

The underside exhaust design looks like a nightmare waiting to happen for anyone who lives in a salty winter environment. And it has no aesthetic appeal.

My understanding is that Subaru engines do not have a long life expectancy (from Subaru Mechanic of 10 years). I will let you know in 7 more. Fingers crossed.

This thing sits and "pinks" and "tinkles" with heat related noise every time you park it. I find that annoying.

There is that cricket thing, but that's not really the engine is it? But it annoys me.

Same with the torque dip, but that I have already mentioned as trivial. Just a thing.

As it gets a bit older, I have a feeling it is going to start blowing oil past the rings because of the cylinder layout.

I pretty much got my answer, you guys all like Subaru engines. Good, wont hold it against you. I did find it interesting that on a different forum the feeling was that it was a great car despite the engine.

Like I said earlier I could care less who makes an engine and as long as it works to my needs I am good with it.

Are you sure? You don't want this? :lol:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1426976963

or this?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1382790115

Weekend toy, track machine or short run DD I would take them is a heartbeat. DD for 14 hours a week and 4,000 miles a month I will pass thanks.

Price of VQ37 Swap please?

To keep it on-topic, two thing I wanna add to your fix comment:

Cricket thing is due with DI and even BMW and other famous brands have this cricket... cuz Toyota/Subaru DI isn't fancy as other brands and our car don't have sound deadening, so you can hear it loud and clear.

Torque dip is boxer engine character. Even Porsche have torque dip. Due to 6 cylinder (instead of 4) they can hide it well, but fact is that dip is still there... but like you said, you barely notice it.

They think you're trolling because this subject has been discussed countless times before. We never seem to learn to the best way to deal with this subject is to ignore it.

Only $1/4M. If you wanna send me that check to me with your car, I got you covered LOL

btw that pic is VR38 from GTR... & it's photoshopped

EDIT:

Correction, someone already did the real deal VR38DETT swap
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1392834770

http://drivencarreviews.com/wp-conte...n_fr-s_010.jpghttp://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1382790115

One of these engine compartments I be proud to show off. Don't care if its Photoshop or not.

Are you willing to spent over or near $80k?