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brewksy 01-09-2012 06:04 PM
I love it when people get upset about a company not releasing the price of a vehicle before they actually sell the vehicle.

cassidy0998 01-09-2012 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by brewksy (Post 110398)
I love it when people get upset about a company not releasing the price of a vehicle before they actually sell the vehicle.
It interferes with financial decision making. Very aggravating.

Kiteless 01-09-2012 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by brewksy (Post 110398)
I love it when people get upset about a company not releasing the price of a vehicle before they actually sell the vehicle.
Er... We generally like to know how much something costs before spending money on it, or in the case of something as expensive as a car, planning to buy it.

Besides its just annoying. Toyo and Scoobie have been giving us these little tiny bread crumbs. Personally I don;'t think we are asking for too much.

- J

delongedoug 01-09-2012 06:09 PM
Are you really acting like you can't fathom what the price is going to be? "OMG how can I plan for this purchase? It could be anywhere from $20-30k!"

Allch Chcar 01-09-2012 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 110191)
It's low weight for a RWD for sure. But I did think it would be around 2800lbs initially, and then the media coverage was lifted and everyone started posting sub 2600lbs, but I guess that only applies to the JDM/EU/AUS models.
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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 110196)
We also don't know if the 2,762 Lbs. is "dry", "unladen", "curb". How does Toyota/Scion/Subaru typically advertise their weights....dry?
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Originally Posted by ryude (Post 110201)
Curb weight is always how Toyota lists their weights. That's the exact way you pick the car up from the dealer.
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Originally Posted by bambbrose (Post 110205)
No I completely agree that it is still lightweight, but the JDM spec model is reportedly 1220 kg (probably dry), which is 2689.

I guess I was hoping for something closer to 2700 instead of 2800. We aren't too far off, only 50 lbs or so.
Curb weights are regional. Eg. US is all fluids and 90% of a tank of fuel. Germany adds a passenger and luggage. I believe Japan's curb weights calculate with 1/2 a tank of fuel.

I guessed 2866lbs/1300kgs and only the fully loaded automatic is going to break 2800 so at least I'm not disappointed.

BTW, Drifting isn't racing, Drift Racing is. :D

dan 01-09-2012 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cassidy0998 (Post 110400)
It interferes with financial decision making. Very aggravating.
+1

If it's out of my price range, I'd like to buy another car in the short term rather than having to wait until April/May.

Dragonitti 01-09-2012 06:16 PM
^Do you guys not already own cars? Are you like in dire need?

madfast 01-09-2012 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrVito (Post 110373)
That's actually a splitter, and the front bumper is either aftermarket or has been extended downward by about an inch, inch and a half,
the car looks to have a complete widebody kit. notice the line on the rear fender above the "dd" of "greddy":

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...5&d=1326144251

switchlanez 01-09-2012 06:17 PM
Actually, First 86 is a crafty and sneaky marketing scheme. They intentionally don't release a price and use that list to gauge how many people are seriously ready to buy. The more people there are who sign up, the more Scion can afford to hike up the price without turning off potential buyers. Nobody should sign up unless they are seriously aching to buy right now. It's for the good of our community that we drive prices down by not signing up.

Spaceywilly 01-09-2012 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 110416)
Actually, First 86 is a crafty and sneaky marketing scheme. They intentionally don't release a price and use that list to gauge how many people are seriously ready to buy. The more people there are who sign up, the more Scion can afford to hike up the price without turning off potential buyers. Nobody should sign up unless they are seriously aching to buy right now. It's for the good of our community that we drive prices down by not signing up.
I think I'll sign up and if I win just sell the car with a huge markup to someone who just can't wait for it.

Longhorn248 01-09-2012 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 110416)
Actually, First 86 is a crafty and sneaky marketing scheme. They intentionally don't release a price and use that list to gauge how many people are seriously ready to buy. The more people there are who sign up, the more Scion can afford to hike up the price without turning off potential buyers. Nobody should sign up unless they are seriously aching to buy right now. It's for the good of our community that we drive prices down by not signing up.
Sounds like a solid marketing plan. If they only get 1000 or so people sign up on the list they know that not everyone is sold on the car yet.

Slide 01-09-2012 06:24 PM
Everyone has been putting down deposits :S... so they already have a good gauge so just tell us all already!

MrVito 01-09-2012 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 110416)
Actually, First 86 is a crafty and sneaky marketing scheme. They intentionally don't release a price and use that list to gauge how many people are seriously ready to buy. The more people there are who sign up, the more Scion can afford to hike up the price without turning off potential buyers. Nobody should sign up unless they are seriously aching to buy right now. It's for the good of our community that we drive prices down by not signing up.
I see what you're doing there.

Longhorn248 01-09-2012 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Slide (Post 110426)
Everyone has been putting down deposits :S... so they already have a good gauge so just tell us all already!
I haven't seen many people on here saying they have actual deposits down yet.


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