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ichitaka05 04-14-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34043)
Yeah they need to stop dragging it out. I'm getting tired of all of this.

Toyota love to keep dragging it out... but Subaru usually show the concept car in auto show and within yr or so and they release it. Good example would be Impreza concept series. They have always shown the concept and next yr (or so) they released it.

blur 04-14-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34053)
http://www.streetfire.net/video/rado...ing_733183.htm






It's ridiculously fast to say the least.

Forged Performances 600-700whp R35 GTR trying to follow him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsWtZ...layer_embedded


People can Call the wing whatever they want, it's a BEAST.

Lol the budget that car has is also beastly... if the GTR could in fact keep up with it, there would be something seriously wrong with their racing development team. I mean, the GTR is a street car.

zenki_levin 04-14-2011 06:16 PM

Does anyone know what it's gonna be called in europe ? I googled it but couldn't find a website with usable info .

Dragonitti 04-14-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 34060)
Lol the budget that car has is also beastly... if the GTR could in fact keep up with it, there would be something seriously wrong with their racing development team. I mean, the GTR is a street car.


The Forged Performance GTR is not a Street car. It's a Modified Class Redline Time Attack car. Means it's gutted, caged...etc. Sharif, the driver, has set lap records at Road Atlanta as well (the track they are on).

Aside from that, the Crawford Performance GTR has seen it's lap times eclipsed by the World Racing Scion tC, and Crawfords GTR makes 800-1000hp.



http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...x/DSC_0521.jpg


800whp Race Viper and 700whp Vette....getting passed up. Not exactly street cars either.

ichitaka05 04-14-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachivic (Post 34062)
Does anyone know what it's gonna be called in europe ? I googled it but couldn't find a website with usable info .

Prob same name as Japan ver

RRnold 04-14-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningFT (Post 34049)
It started with Motorcycle gangs in Japan. Might appeal to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8Ds%C5%8Dzoku

Hayabusa?

Maybe American Chopper but definitely not Cafe and definitely not my cup of tea regardless of it originated from motorcycles! Show that to any Brit and they'll laugh! Cafe Racers cut or removed any uncessary parts to make it go faster hence the name (race around the coffee shop until the record stops playing).

Here is an example

'69 Triumph Bonneville
http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk...cafe_racer.jpg

'55 Norton Manx
http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk..._manx_1955.jpg

Bōsōzoku are known to modify their motorcycles in peculiar and often showy ways. A typical customized bosozoku bike usually consists of an average Japanese road bike that appears to combine elements of an American chopper style bike and a British café racer, for example: over-sized fairings like those found on café racers, raised handle bars like those on a chopper. Loud paint jobs on the fenders or the gas tanks with motifs such as flames or kamikaze style "rising sun" designs are also quite common. The bikes will often be adorned with stickers and/or flags depicting the gang's symbol or logo. There are also marked regional differences in motorcycle modifications. For example, Ibaraki bōsōzoku are known to modify their motorcycles in an extensively colorful, flashy way. They will often have three or four oversized fairings in a tower like way in a motorcycle painted in bright yellow or pink with Christmas light–like adornments. Their motorcycles were often cobbled together from stolen motorcycle parts and thus suffered from numerous break downs and maintenance problems.
Bosozoku also have a distinct style of car modification, eponymously called "bosozoku style".[4] These cars are often modified with large exhaust pipes, bright paint, and large aero kits, the latter modelled on Group 5 “Special Production Cars” of the 1970s.[5] Also popular are oil coolers or less commonly large turbo or supercharger intercoolers with highly polished tubing, usually mounted in a prominent position in the front bumper.[6]

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 34050)
Just ignore RRnold. He has absolutely no clue as to what he's talkin about.

I ain't gonna lie, you might think it's nostalgic but they are ugly! I know a good thing when I see it!

U-G-L-Y
http://i.pbase.com/g3/99/278099/2/57506380.DSCN0027.jpg

zenki_levin 04-14-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 34064)
Prob same name as Japan ver

I hope the price will be 'affordable' . Euro versions tend to be very pricey compared to the jap/us versions .

blur 04-14-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34063)
The Forged Performance GTR is not a Street car. It's a Modified Class Redline Time Attack car. Means it's gutted, caged...etc.

Aside from that, the Crawford Performance GTR has seen it's lap times eclipsed by the World Racing Scion tC, and Crawfords GTR makes 800-1000hp.

Sure looks like a street car compared to the tC. And I can't really find any info on either GTR, so I cant comment.
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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 34065)
I ain't gonna lie, you might think it's nostalgic but they are ugly! I know a good thing when I see it!
http://i.pbase.com/g3/99/278099/2/57506380.DSCN0027.jpg

What you consider ugly people in japan see as creative. Its like a fashion industry down there, but with cars. Its one thing to say its not your cup of tea, but calling them ricers is just stupid bro.

ichitaka05 04-14-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachivic (Post 34066)
I hope the price will be 'affordable' . Euro versions tend to be very pricey compared to the jap/us versions .

Can't say anything on that one, cuz I/we don't know how much it's actually gonna cost

tranzformer 04-14-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34044)
The way you come of is that Scion is responsible for that trend. That's what I was conveying. There are Riced out 350z's dude. Ricers are in every brand. You think just because it's a Toyota that it will be immune to getting riced out? I say you should wake up bro.

Bro where did I ever say Scion was responsible for the trend. Read my post again. I said "Seems like Honda and Scions tend to be more at risk for this unfortunate disaster of being "riced out"..." I didn't say Scion was responsible. I just said that Honda and Scion cars are more at risk for being riced out. Also never said there aren't riced out 350z, Supras, Evos, STIs...etc. Never said that in my post. Just said Hondas and Scions are more at risk. That is based on my experience from local car meets and car shows. YMMV.


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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34044)
Tisk Tisk, thanks for further proving to me that you have no idea what you are talking about. For starters, those cars have Rules and regulations for the sanctioning body they compete in. In Time Attack Unlimited class, that's just it...."It's Unlimited". They have 100s of hours in development in that car, and you think that your "Opinion" is greater than that? World Racing is about squeezing out every inch of time out of their car. They added the front wing to the car and ran 4sec faster than their previous track record. The car is FWD, when you are pushing 1200hp to the front wheels, you tell me what methods you would have utilized to put the power down to the ground? I'm waiting for your expertise on the subject matter. Please include your rich racing background as well as your advanced study credentials in Aerodynamics.

Tisk tisk tisk for not understanding the point of my post. My point was there are plenty of cars that are fast without a goofy spoiler on the hood of a car. That was my point. / of my point with that.

tranzformer 04-14-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningFT (Post 34046)
Dude are you 12 years old?

You put up Rado's TC and a Bosozoku bB??

Seriously?

Naw dude are you 11 years old? Can we have a civil discussion without having to degrade someone else with useless comments?

Yes I put up the tC and the xB. What is your point. Both of them made the pointed I wanted to regarding riced out cars and the styling features that many use when they try to "pimp" their car into a riced fart can. Big wings, big graphics, "loud" paint, crazy ground effects...etc. You have somebody see a race car/show car with a spoiler and all of a sudden you have a bunch of teenagers thinking that if those cars have spoilers you might as well go with a large one since larger is always better. Right?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GmlJ2al7e_...ifications.jpg

Also in my opinion the Bosozoku is ugly and epitomizes my definition of a riced out car. You might like it. Great. I personally don't and think it is ugly. It actually looks better stock compared to what they did with it. After all that is my opinion. YMMV.

RRnold 04-14-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34053)
http://www.streetfire.net/video/rado...ing_733183.htm

It's ridiculously fast to say the least.

Forged Performances 600-700whp R35 GTR trying to follow him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsWtZ...layer_embedded

That is fast and an excellent lap time! Shit, he holds the record!! Haskovec's 1:21 lap time was during the Toyota 200 which used to bring out the AMA guys b/c of the purse! Last time I was at Willow on my R6, I was running 1:29-1:31's during a track day and not a race weekend. Race weekend, guys are running 1:24's.

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 34070)
What you consider ugly people in japan see as creative. Its like a fashion industry down there, but with cars. Its one thing to say its not your cup of tea, but calling them ricers is just stupid bro.

WTF?! Who called them ricers? Did I strike a nerve with you for you to get all tender inside "BRO"! :bellyroll: Japan is more than capable of being creative, its just not in this department! :clap:

tranzformer 04-14-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34063)
The Forged Performance GTR is not a Street car. It's a Modified Class Redline Time Attack car. Means it's gutted, caged...etc. Sharif, the driver, has set lap records at Road Atlanta as well (the track they are on).

Aside from that, the Crawford Performance GTR has seen it's lap times eclipsed by the World Racing Scion tC, and Crawfords GTR makes 800-1000hp.



http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...x/DSC_0521.jpg


800whp Race Viper and 700whp Vette....getting passed up. Not exactly street cars either.


Take the fastest Time Attack Unlimited AWD vs. FR vs. FF. Rado's tC doesn't even break the top 10 fastest times. Give me the Sierra Sierra Enterprises Evo 8 or the FX NSX over Rado's tC any day please.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/...cc2207924f.jpg


http://photos.motoiq.com/photos/665058894_j3LHV-M.jpg

tranzformer 04-14-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34044)
The car is FWD, when you are pushing 1200hp to the front wheels, you tell me what methods you would have utilized to put the power down to the ground? I'm waiting for your expertise on the subject matter. Please include your rich racing background as well as your advanced study credentials in Aerodynamics.

That is a lame excuse since other cars in the FF don't have crazy spoilers on their hood. Take Heinricy's Cobalt or Evanson's Civic.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2274/...210daa45c5.jpg


http://image.automotive.com/f/featur...t_overhead.jpg

Yep no hood mounted spoilers even though they were putting out some serious power for their weight.


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