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zigzagz94 04-14-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 34030)
with a quick look through Subaru's website, i didn't find anything about the details that you mentioned. specifically the automatic $1300 off msrp.

NESW20, I believe this is what he is talking about:

http://www.lnt.org/programs/subaruVIP.php

"
Members of Leave No Trace are eligible for Subaru's VIP Partners Program. Save between $1,300–3,300 off the manufacturer's suggested retail price (depending on model and accessories) plus any applicable incentives on the purchase or lease of any new Subaru from participating dealers, without haggling. To take advantage of this benefit, Leave No Trace members must contact the Leave No Trace office before shopping for a Subaru. Our staff will arrange to have a letter of confirmation mailed to you as well as to your pre-selected local dealer. You must be a member of Leave No Trace for 6 months before you qualify for the VIP Partners Program. This offer is not applicable if you have already taken delivery of your new Subaru."

Dragonitti 04-14-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34036)
And yet a reason Scion has been doing so poorly is everyone has been running away from them to other manufacturers.




So with it being a Scion it is just a matter of time before we start getting riced out 86s huh? Seems like Honda and Scions tend to be more at risk for this unfortunate disaster of being "riced out" with crazy rear wings and front splitters.

Exhibit A:

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f...oving_shot.jpg



The top image is a Japanese style only found in Japan. So, you are insulting Japanese tuners there (whom were doing that type of thing LONG BEFORE Scion came along).


Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34036)
Exhibit B:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kD9ET_VjSZ...g-scion-tc.jpg


Just image what will happen to the 86. My heart cries inside thinking about it.


Wow, so the the time attack car that owns 10+ track record times across the country that was designed and consulted by an Aerodynamics Engineer is just a ricer?.....LOL. Obviously you don't appreciate function over form.

Your post carries no weight with me after that one.

tranzformer 04-14-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34040)
The top image is a Japanese style only found in Japan. So, you are insulting Japanese tuners there (whom were doing that type of thing LONG BEFORE Scion came along).

It doesn't matter who did it or for what reason. A riced out car is a riced out car regardless of if you are in Japan, US, Europe, or South America. A riced out car is just that.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 34040)
Wow, so the the time attack car that owns 10+ track record times across the country that was designed and consulted by an Aerodynamics Engineer is just a ricer?.....LOL. Obviously you don't appreciate function over form.

Your post carries no weight with me after that one.

So a great track car needs to have a crazy front spoiler that is a reversed engineered rear spoiler on a scaffolding system? Ok I will make sure to send that note along to these guys.


http://car3bmw.co.cc/pictures/car/im...2-race-car.jpg



http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00198507_m.jpg



http://www.flagworld.com/photos/d/34...he+911+GT3.jpg

ichitaka05 04-14-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 33978)
So, for those indicating jumping over to Subaru, you think it's going to be the same price as a Toyota/Scion version? Yeah I'm going to say it will significantly cost more for the Subaru version so it's not directly competing with the Toyota/Scion equivalent.

We can't say anything on that one. Cuz they only shown drivetrain layout only and nothing else (price or when it's going to release).

Dragonitti 04-14-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34038)
From Scion's high of ~15-19k cars a month now down to barely 3,000 cars a month, you really think a FT-86 will get people to come back to Scion? I doubt the 86, no matter how great it will be, will turn Scion around. If I'm in my mid-30s to early 40s with 2 solid household incomes ($90-120k combined) I'm looking at a totally different car than a Scion/86. No offense.


You have me confused with someone else. I don't give a crap if it's a Toyota or a Scion. I only gripped about it not having a Toyota motor. I'm not the one crying. I made an observation that the people crying over being a Scion don't put the same effort into crying about not having a Toyota motor. If they were THAT pure then the forums would be filled with dislikes for the motor choice, but it's not. I don't consider you a purist if you aren't pissed about the motor. I'm not a purist. I buy cars based on the cars merits in and of itself. The value for it's features are reasonable, and it's known to be reliable, then I consider it.

I was considering buying a Gen Coupe which is made by a company with not so great reputation from the past. People overlooked the past though when the present produces a decent product.

In the same token you don't think the 86 will bring Scion around, I don't think the 86 will some how magically restore Toyota to a performance brand. One car in their lineup isn't enough to do that...imo. Like it or not, the tC is sporty and performs well, has a substantial aftermarket to create whatever you like out of it. All of Scions line has a substantial tuner market aside from the xD maybe.


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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 34042)
We can't say anything on that one. Cuz they only shown drivetrain layout only and nothing else (price or when it's going to release).

Yeah they need to stop dragging it out. I'm getting tired of all of this.

Dragonitti 04-14-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34041)
It doesn't matter who did it or for what reason. A riced out car is a riced out car regardless of if you are in Japan, US, Europe, or South America. A riced out car is just that.


The way you come of is that Scion is responsible for that trend. That's what I was conveying. There are Riced out 350z's dude. Ricers are in every brand. You think just because it's a Toyota that it will be immune to getting riced out? I say you should wake up bro.





Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34041)
So a great track car needs to have a crazy front spoiler that is a reversed engineered rear spoiler on a scaffolding system? Ok I will make sure to send that note along to these guys.


http://car3bmw.co.cc/pictures/car/im...2-race-car.jpg



http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00198507_m.jpg



http://www.flagworld.com/photos/d/34...he+911+GT3.jpg



Tisk Tisk, thanks for further proving to me that you have no idea what you are talking about. For starters, those cars have Rules and regulations for the sanctioning body they compete in. In Time Attack Unlimited class, that's just it...."It's Unlimited". They have 100s of hours in development in that car, and you think that your "Opinion" is greater than that? World Racing is about squeezing out every inch of time out of their car. They added the front wing to the car and ran 4sec faster than their previous track record. The car is FWD, when you are pushing 1200hp to the front wheels, you tell me what methods you would have utilized to put the power down to the ground? I'm waiting for your expertise on the subject matter. Please include your rich racing background as well as your advanced study credentials in Aerodynamics.

NESW20 04-14-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34033)
A little bit of google goes a long way: click here



Edit: Looks like zigzag found a specific reference from one of the programs. So you should be good to go now.

http://www.lnt.org/programs/subaruVIP.php

what part of "subaru's site" didn't you understand??? ;)

BanningFT 04-14-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34036)
And yet a reason Scion has been doing so poorly is everyone has been running away from them to other manufacturers.




So with it being a Scion it is just a matter of time before we start getting riced out 86s huh? Seems like Honda and Scions tend to be more at risk for this unfortunate disaster of being "riced out" with crazy rear wings and front splitters.

Exhibit A:

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f...oving_shot.jpg

Exhibit B:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kD9ET_VjSZ...g-scion-tc.jpg


Just image what will happen to the 86. My heart cries inside thinking about it.


Dude are you 12 years old?

You put up Rado's TC and a Bosozoku bB??

Seriously?

tranzformer 04-14-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 34045)
what part of "subaru's site" didn't you understand??? ;)

I guess you don't know how to use google?

RRnold 04-14-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningFT (Post 34046)
Dude are you 12 years old?

You put up Rado's TC and a Bosozoku bB??

Seriously?

I believe it ran a 1:22 @ Willow, which might be the record lap time for a FF car. That's very quick given the record lap there was by Michael Andretti at 1:06 (Indy car) and the fastest motorcycle lap time was Vincent Haskovec at 1:21

Never heard of Bosozoku but googled it and found all of his designs to be disgusting! :thumbdown:

http://omgpancakes.wordpress.com/category/bosozoku/

BanningFT 04-14-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 34048)
I believe it ran a 1:22 @ Willow, which might be the record lap time for a FF car. That's very quick given the record lap there was by Michael Andretti at 1:06 (Indy car) and the fastest motorcycle lap time was Vincent Haskovec at 1:21

Never heard of Bosozoku but googled it and found all of his designs to be disgusting! :thumbdown:

http://omgpancakes.wordpress.com/category/bosozoku/


It started with Motorcycle gangs in Japan. Might appeal to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8Ds%C5%8Dzoku

Hayabusa?

blur 04-14-2011 04:47 PM

Just ignore RRnold. He has absolutely no clue as to what he's talkin about.

I'm actually looking forward to a low MSRP and no haggle system. Lets just hope that we get the same car as the rest of the world, aside for badges.

Macavely 04-14-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 34050)
Just ignore RRnold. He has absolutely no clue as to what he's talkin about.

I'm actually looking forward to a low MSRP and no haggle system. Lets just hope that we get the same car as the rest of the world, aside for badges.

That is what I'm looking forward to also ....

Dragonitti 04-14-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 34047)
I guess you don't know how to use google?

http://www.streetfire.net/video/rado...ing_733183.htm



Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 34048)
I believe it ran a 1:22 @ Willow, which might be the record lap time for a FF car. That's very quick given the record lap there was by Michael Andretti at 1:06 (Indy car) and the fastest motorcycle lap time was Vincent Haskovec at 1:21


It's ridiculously fast to say the least.

Forged Performances 600-700whp R35 GTR trying to follow him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsWtZ...layer_embedded


People can Call the wing whatever they want, it's a BEAST.


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