Oh god I can't hold out any longer!
The OP is in CHINA. They don't have FRSs there they have 86s which have exactly the same features as the BRZs.
The ONLY place where they are not exactly the same features is in North America.

LOL Still leaves the FRS drivers above the WRX ones!


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I wasn't talking about OP I was talking to Mr. Impreza

Who was talking to the OP who is in China.
If there are any people responding that don't know the difference by now they have some reading to do.

To be fair, the OP wrote "Scion FR-S" in the title... and even I didnt notice the "china" under her username on the side of the post.

Isn't this Toyota's design in general? And Subaru had a new boxer they were dying to try out and then it was the FRS/BRZ

From what I read, the CEO of Toyota was walking thru the show room (Im guessing every car built is in there? dunno) and says "where is the passion? Lets build a sports car" Then subaru reached out with the rest and it was born.

Look at the car, it looks nothing like no kind of Subaru Ive seen (except for the vent window, which I love even though its non functional. But it looks much much more like a Toyota 2000. Listen to the car it sure as hell sounds nothing like any Toyota, it has that familiar boxer rumble to it. It's a good mating pair and I think they did a good job, but Subaru does sell more than Toyota and I think that can be blamed on the SCION badge which is a brand that I love and was loyal to me for ten years.

Someone said a better quality of folks buy the Subaru? I buy what I like and whats a good deal. At the time I didn't see any Subaru's near me and their both the same car and I love Scion. The one reason, and main reason I chose this car. It looks incredible and nothing on the road looks like it. Someone ask my wife was it a Fourty thousand dollar car. It looks more expensive than it is IMO, but some think the opposite. When I buy cars I look for value and performance dollar and fun, I don't look for finish grades and buttons that do a million things at once. I drive it I don't live in it. My mustang didn't have junk in it ,this car has no junk in it. It's simple basic and fun. I love the retro old school sport and super car look to (look at the old Ferrari's, , old European gull wing cars, look at most old vintage race cars, the FRS/BRZ looks very similar.

That's just my take on which is best, neither is best

No idea what you're talking about as I never mentioned the interior features, just the exterior features which are minor but different.

That "someone" is me and from what I see, it looks like you didn't buy a BRZ and trying to justify it, which is something that high quality people aka current and previous BRZ owners never did...ESPECIALLY the one's that paid extra for the auto. Only poors have to row their own gears.

Ahhhh see but that is why it is important to gather as much data as possible before replying. All the FRS info is of zero value to the OP since they can not get one anyway (unless of course they get one shipped and that would just be silly)

Or the OP is moving to the US from China, is going to be in the US for some extended period of time, or just decided to put China cause she's Chinese and proud :p

*awaits post #2 from OP*

OP: Id get the special edition with the 2.5L. It has turbo so it goes vroom neeeooorgh and cruashhhhcrash when you crash, but if you can drift in a straight line itll go vroooomm nrghhh nrgh tchhhhshhhhhhhhh and it sounds real cool, then the suicide doors increase wave length so you get like 40mpg hwy and 30 in town. It's only available in Asia so you are so lucky!


Please take pics when you get it!

I partially agree. I dont know if trolling or not but yeah, i kinda want still the BRZ due to seats and rear. I do prefer the Toyota emblems on the FRS though. The BRZ tail looks so nice but im so biased to Toyota. 3k just didnt seem to justify my taking of a BRZ then at the stealerships.

If I do total my FRS, i'll go BRZ pearl white or blue though!~

I'm a grill irl btw

I give that a 2/7.

Heh auto that's cute this way your grandmother can drive it. Anyways I'm not justifying myself to a kid which is what you sound like judging from the terms you used. If you're not a kid, perhaps you should grow up. You sound very high quality sir! A regular harvard graduate.

Also I don't think the thread is about you now back to child's table

:lol::clap: gj @AznBRZer

Perfect, been looking for a place to put my sausage.

a/s/l?

I have a 4 door turbo brz, so you KNOW I'm a high quality person.:thumbsup:

The only grandmother I knew wasn't even related to me by blood and died when I was 11. It was a very traumatic time for me. She adopted my father and beat the hell out of him when he was a kid, but spoiled me rotten. I still remember her getting me fried fish sandwiches at the local pizza shop when I was a toddler...I can still taste them when I think about those times. If she was still alive, you're damn right I'd let her drive it. That's the kind of thing that high quality people like BRZ owners do!

Few things.

1. OP is from China. IP address is from China.
2. Some of y'all need to chill.

Back on topic.
OP, please check here for cosmetic difference: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2998

Like some of member stated, interior is almost same due to Scion is only US brand. Toyota 86 give several different grades (G, GT, GT Limited), if you exclude TRD, 14R and other limited edi. Subaru BRZ is about same as well.

IF you're coming to US for some reason and looking into purchasing Scion FR-S or Subaru BRZ then Scion FR-S have only one model vs Subaru BRZ have 2 different grades. You can find all other detail info EVERYWHERE in this forum and Scion/Subaru website. Search and if you need more specific questions, ask.

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To me you're still 11 years old little girl now scat go away ya bother me

You're bad at reading humor on these forums. And calling other people children (or name calling in general) really doesn't make anyone look good.

His first post was a joke, you took it the wrong way and now you're just getting trolled. Calm down.

I want a fried fish sandwich now. I'm sick and stayed home from work today but I'm going to gather myself up and go get it right now!

Do you have something against 11 year old girls? My grandma was one once and grew up to raise 2 kids as a single mother in the middle of the Cultural Revolution after her husband disappeared.

But here's the thing: even 11 year old girls know that the BRZ is the better car that all the cooler people drive. Everyone else is just beta. And once you own a BRZ, the coolness always follows you in whatever you drive. You get double cool points if you get a WRX next, but it's poseur points if you own them at the same time( I'm talking about YOU, @DSOmegaX).

No offence but you have one of the ugliest cars in the world. I think kids should be seen not heard. You have no respect for anyone I can see that and you really have no business talking to me because you and are generations apart and world's apart and sounds like you really know nothing about cars other than what's todays fad. So with that being said. Asta. Have a nice life kid

Hearing that you don't like the JDM HIDs is acid to my eyes and ears haha.

To be fair, I dont like the JDM Headlights either. I wouldn't go far to call it tacky just I don't like the "exposed" LED look. I prefer the LED light bar look.

Hey, hows it going? Unfortunately you have your story completely backwards of how the 86 what created. Basically Toyota was designing a new sports car basing it off of the 2000GT, Sports 800 and AE86. After trying a couple of different engine layouts they had no luck of what they wanted it to be. Toyota then contacted Subaru and after awhile of trying to get them on board the project Subaru finally agreed and they co-designed the engine and car together. As for who sells more, Toyota vs. Subaru, It's a proven fact that Toyota sells more 86s than Subaru sells BRZs. :)

Fair enough. The FR-S Monogram, 10 series, and RS headlights are the JDM ones just for future references.

As I said saw and read, I don't apply what I saw or read as truth, only what I gained from it. I think one was from a first drive video.

Gentlemen;

Can we please all get along.

Why would I be offended? I clearly have a Superior car made by a Superior manufacturer, which in turn makes me high quality and is the reason why you're drinking the haterade. Why would I need your approval when I already know that I am a High Quality Person.

You want to know what I think? I think that YOU'RE the one that wants my approval in order to be associated with high quality people like BRZ owners. It's kinda sad when you think about it.

I see, no worries.

OH MAN...Richard just submit and tell him his car is better! Also what happened to the OP "chick"? I bet she got scared, jumped ship and just got a Honda or Hyundai. Also if it matters to anybody, I got the grouper and it was delicious.

You make this life worth living.:cheers:

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disclaimer: Did not read the thread

I'm not posting this for the OP as they may or may not be in China but rather I will post this for anyone else reading this who may also have the same question.

Both cars are nearly identical. It is true that the Subaru comes with some better options and costs more. But the main reason why I got an FRS was because Toyota offered 84 month financing (at only 1.8%) whereas Subaru only offers up to 60mo. otherwise they make you take a bank rate which is like 6 or 7%. I would have taken the Subaru had they offered proper financing but instead went for Scion which was far more affordable in the long run. I also am really impressed with their service thus far; I am coming from a Volkswagen which was just a complete nightmare.

Edit: I am in Toronto, Canada

Don't worry I sold my WRX! :) haha

Take this as a grain of salt.

& make it interesting, I'll add some pics to go along with this story. lol

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Chief Engineer Tada-san was called up by President of Toyota (Akio Toyoda) and ordered to stop what he was working (nothing crazy, simple eco car) and bring few mens to start on new project. This was back in '06.

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He was told to make whatever car he wanted. It could of been high power, high speed, crazy style or ANYTHING. Only one condition, it have to be SPORTS CAR. He and his team went through several of old Toyota glorify sports cars. Old as 2000GT and new as Supra to get some ideas on what would people want. Designers for FT-86 Concept walked everyday to work passing through several Toyota sports car display (like 2000GT). Of course, design looks like 2000GT and few other Toyota Sports car. As a result, they made few concepts, one was FT-HS.

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After several months designing and re-designing and more re-designing, they finally show off FT-86 Concept. Showing of FT-86 Concept at TAS with massive positive review and feedback from both inside Toyota corp and media, they went off to work more on FT-86 Concept.

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His idea was NA engine with lightweight RWD car that owner can mod or do whatever they want to. Which Toyota made several car like that. Famous one of all is AE86. He contacted Moto-san from Club4AG and get some feedback and idea from him.

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While working on this project, Toyota bought partial stock of Subaru. Tada-san thought that "This might be some kind of fate, how about using Subaru's new engine?" So he asked President, if possible to work with Subaru on this project and they brought few men into this project. Which he thought was a good idea, but Subaru didn't see that as a good idea. Countless months of debating going nowhere saying "It's ridiculous" or "That's impossible".

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He have finally convinced Subaru to make a hacked up car using Subaru parts. After few modification done and both Subaru and Toyota test driver and other engineer drove it, only thing they could say was "Huh, it's actually not bad" & smile on their face. After that, project went smoother... but there were several issue they had to go through (not gonna list em all).

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Countless hours of debates, sweat, blood, tears, test driving, fixing, adjusting, fixing more, re-designing, re-engineering, even raced in 24hrs Nur and gave more than 120%, here we have it. Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ.

Again, take this as grain of salt. :thumbsup:

Source: Me. Meeting & interviewing Tada-san and other designer/engineers for this projects & talking with Moto-san countless hours.

Grouper fingers good stuff. Yes they do have fingers.
There's nothing to submit. I smushed it with my last post.

Sweet! Do you have the whole interview. Does he talk about the 2000 I love that car! Im interested in a real take of the twins birth, just because it's such an interesting car.

Wow that's pretty cool and it did favor the story I heard wit them getting inspiration from their stable. Fuck I'd love to see the Supra in there. That white thing is pretty awesome. Thanks for the back story!