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serith 06-26-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cgrey (Post 278376)
I'm noticing a lot of people messing with my car while parked. In two weeks there have been more problems than during 15 years of car ownership. Anyone else having problems?

This car attracts a lot of attention, and unfortunately some of it will be negative. This is just one of the reasons I won't purchase this car until I own a house with a garage to put it in.

lordtakuban 06-26-2012 08:02 AM

It sounds personal. I don't think it's because of the car by itself. The dash cam idea is solid (Provided they don't break in and steal it). A car alarm with a proximity sensor would be nice too. I plan on adding one to my car once it comes in.

As for the .45 advice, I'm not sure what your laws are up in NY. But even in Florida, you can't shoot someone for messing with your car (Unless you're in it and they are trying to gain entry).

But I think it's someone who is targeting you specifically or someone else, but they think your car is the other person's. My current car draws a lot of attention. More than the FR-S will likely draw for me, I'm sure. But I haven't had to deal with vandalism like that. So it's not the car.


Good luck.

BMWDavid 06-26-2012 08:26 AM

Man I feel for you guys that live in the city and have to park on the street. I don't know if I'd even bother with a nice car if I had to live like that.

Makes me really appreciate my rural living. My car is in the garage anyway but here we have wildlife that can mess you car...raccons, squirrels, mice and so on.

mezdup 06-26-2012 08:40 AM

Man that's rough. I work on LI but frequently commute to Manhattan for jobs. Luckily I get reimbursed for my travel so I get to park in garages. You run the risk of people joyriding (rare imo) but it's safer than streetside parking I think.

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encity5 06-26-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cgrey (Post 279186)
Street parking in Manhattan is where I'm having the problem. I've never had a problem parking anywhere in Queens so I wouldn't worry about parking there. What area?

Where in manhattan? I work downtown but only drive out occasionally I haven't had issues yet parking in the city but Ive only parked downtown ish ctown/tribeca.

city driving and parking is a constant headache and worry... Now I feel like I should be worrying more about what streets I park

jarviz 06-26-2012 10:29 AM

I've never had to park in the city yet but when I do, I'm more worried about the the bumper to bumper parking.

I saw an argento FRS on the Bronx River Parkway a few weeks ago. Was that you Cgrey?

jarviz 06-26-2012 10:30 AM

hey EnCity, what part of queens you from. Did you get your firestorm at Queensboro? They had a firestorm there and that was the first and only time I've seen the Red so far.

PoRco 06-26-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cgrey (Post 279183)
After much research, this one seems good:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BlackVue...item1c278bdf4c


http://www.radardetectorforum.org/ca...am-review.html


Seems perfect. Always on, sensitive seismic and motion, high quality, loop recording.


Wow, awesome! Do you know how long the recording would last before it starts deleting? Just in case someone decides to KEY my car in the night, I don't want the camera to record over it.


Just noticed the "Parking Mode" function. Super cool! I think I might get this one too! :w00t:

Rossman 06-26-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lordtakuban (Post 279333)
As for the .45 advice, I'm not sure what your laws are up in NY. But even in Florida, you can't shoot someone for messing with your car (Unless you're in it and they are trying to gain entry).


Honestly, my .45 comment was a joke. Please do not kill anyone based on my comment!

Secondly, your comment about Florida is laughable. This is the state where you can kill someone FOR ANY REASON as long as you "feel threatened". Aka Zimmerman...ugh.

vividracing 06-26-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PoRco (Post 278444)
Man that sucks ballz...

I suggest getting one of those dash cams. They aren't TOO expensive, considering the love you have for the car... it'll be worth it.

There's a car in my neighbourhood that has a blue light constantly blinking at his dash. It looks like a camera..and I constantly feel like I'm being watched when I pass by that car. It got me thinking...and I'm gonna get something like that for my car (when I get it) . Because the least it will do is make people think twice before doing stupid shit...

Viper Alarms come with a blue LED, that's probably what that car has. A good alarm w/ a 2-way pager, tilt sensor, and proximity sensor would do more than the camera imo. What's the camera good for? The police will NOT do anything. I can guarantee that. So that leaves it up to you... Do you want to confront this guy? If not, then skip the camera. If so, then be careful.

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Originally Posted by mattles (Post 278558)
Mines been keyed down to the color, other than that not really fucked with. Luckily (?) it was keyed on the front bumper so no metal repair, just plastic. Just picked up the paint pen from the local subaru dealership, gonna see what I can do this weekend. If I fail, I guess its off to paint/body specialist.

Wow, that sucks Matt! Where did this happen?

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Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 279695)
Honestly, my .45 comment was a joke. Please do not kill anyone based on my comment!

Secondly, your comment about Florida is laughable. This is the state where you can kill someone FOR ANY REASON as long as you "feel threatened". Aka Zimmerman...ugh.

Florida is a Stand Your Ground state, just like Arizona. I love our gun laws. Zimmerman should not be using Stand Your Ground as a defense, but that's a topic for another thread.

PoRco 06-26-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 279759)
Viper Alarms come with a blue LED, that's probably what that car has. A good alarm w/ a 2-way pager, tilt sensor, and proximity sensor would do more than the camera imo. What's the camera good for? The police will NOT do anything. I can guarantee that. So that leaves it up to you... Do you want to confront this guy? If not, then skip the camera. If so, then be careful.


.

Really? If I know who the guy is and I tell the cops, they won't do anything? I hope that's not really the case

What's to stop anyone from doing this then? What will the alarm do?

Pbrown 06-26-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kmbkk (Post 278443)
This! I would take some time and keep an eye on it. It seems to me like a specific person is messing with you, or just doesn't like you for some reason.

He's the guy that put the deposit down right before you and you got your car first.

encity5 06-26-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 279544)
hey EnCity, what part of queens you from. Did you get your firestorm at Queensboro? They had a firestorm there and that was the first and only time I've seen the Red so far.

Not from queens. Bought in manhattan.
From SI.

daiheadjai 06-26-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 279695)
Honestly, my .45 comment was a joke. Please do not kill anyone based on my comment!

Secondly, your comment about Florida is laughable. This is the state where you can kill someone FOR ANY REASON as long as you "feel threatened". Aka Zimmerman...ugh.

In Toronto, you get arrested for protecting your property or if you apprehend a drug addict who's been stealing from your store repeatedly.
Just ask David Chen.

vividracing 06-26-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PoRco (Post 279898)
Really? If I know who the guy is and I tell the cops, they won't do anything? I hope that's not really the case

What's to stop anyone from doing this then? What will the alarm do?

Maybe in Canada the police care, but not here in the US. Especially a place like NYC. It's a mixture of having way more important stuff to do, and just straight up not caring.

The alarm will scare the vandal off. Especially if you make your presence known every time the alarm goes off.

mattles 06-26-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 279759)


Wow, that sucks Matt! Where did this happen?


I wasnt keeping very good track of the car, so it could have happened Friday night or Saturday sometime during the day. It was either starbucks on camelback @ 16th oooor somewhere in oldtown snobsdale. Im thinking most likely starbucks saturday morning though since its one of the few times I parked the car in an open lot, during the day, next to other cars, out my eyesight for atleast 45 minutes.
Its been too hot and Ive been too lazy to try my hand at repairing it. The subaru paint pen looks very easy to use, though.

I was gonna proceed thusly:
- tape off area
- wash thoroughly
- strip wax/etc
- IPA rub down
- wear gloves
- go to work with increasingly more abrasive compounds (clearcoat only though) to minimize the clearcoat damage (hand only, no orbital)
- after the clear coat only scratches have been buffed out, fill in deep color scratches with paint pen
- use my nifty scratch repair compound to smooth out the paint pen after its dry
- more hand buffing/finishing
- check it under some briiiight lighting
- cleaner/polish/sealant/wax then check the reflection again and see how I did

If all that fails, fuck it the car is going off to a paint correction specialist for all work just short of a full repaint.

DeeezNuuuts83 06-26-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cgrey (Post 278421)
So far extinguishing cigarettes on it then tossing the butts in the wiper area, stickers on the windows, pouring things on it. Nothing like a boot in the door yet but I'm sure it's coming. Or a brick in the window.

Unusual for this area and specifically only this car. Started immediately too, first night I parked it here.

Guess the car stands out.

That sucks. I guess there are just always going to be haters who have no respect for other people's belongings.

I know how you feel, as when I got my first Evo right when I had finished college, all sorts of stuff happened. When I lived in Newport Beach, I remember somebody drew a swastika on my hood (but just with their finger on the moisture generated at night/early morning, so it just rinsed off and wasn't anything that I really cared about), and when I moved to Irvine for a short time, I remember going out to my car in the morning and seeing soda spilled on it, and another time, I could tell that someone had pissed along the driver's side of the car (though to this day I'm 90% sure it was done by a guy whose girlfriend I had slept with, and ironically he was a WRX owner).

Liquidsnake 06-26-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade (Post 278507)
Yeah, they probably drive a Z and think that his FRS is lame because it doesn't have chrome wheels, a spoiler, or a drop top. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...lies/amuse.gif

Drop top baby Drop top.

lordtakuban 06-26-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 279695)
Honestly, my .45 comment was a joke. Please do not kill anyone based on my comment!

Secondly, your comment about Florida is laughable. This is the state where you can kill someone FOR ANY REASON as long as you "feel threatened". Aka Zimmerman...ugh.

The Zimmerman thing is a highly political media circus and not typical of a standard self defense scenario. So I won't even bother discussing that whole train wreck. Contrary to that news story, it's not easy to just walk around shooting people.

dori. 06-26-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by encity5 (Post 279414)
Where in manhattan? I work downtown but only drive out occasionally I haven't had issues yet parking in the city but Ive only parked downtown ish ctown/tribeca.

city driving and parking is a constant headache and worry... Now I feel like I should be worrying more about what streets I park

this is relevant to my interests since I visit the city frequently, and I usually park in the 20's or by 125th street


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazdaspeed (Post 278665)
Dang, are you guys doing anything to draw unnecessary attention to the car (parking across lanes, parking way far away from everyone else, etc.) or does it seem like people are vandalizing these things just for kicks?

I've had my fire engine red Mazdaspeed 3 for around 5 years and it doesn't have so much as a single door ding, nor has it been keyed or intentionally damaged in any way. And my car even draws a bit of ire from people who think it's just a badge job without any actual performance to back it up.

Uh, if you can't tell the difference here, your car could easily be mistaken for a regular Mazda 3.

There is no mistaking an FR-S.

simpleisbest 06-26-2012 04:33 PM

Ever think of using a car cover when parking overnight?
Out of sight out of mind for the most part.

Dave-ROR 06-26-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 279695)
Honestly, my .45 comment was a joke. Please do not kill anyone based on my comment!

Secondly, your comment about Florida is laughable. This is the state where you can kill someone FOR ANY REASON as long as you "feel threatened". Aka Zimmerman...ugh.

That's not true at all.

You have to feel that your life or someone elses is in mortal danger, not just "that guy scared me". There are cases where people have tried to use the Stand your Ground defense and it's failed, because it was clearly outside the requirements. IMO Zimmerman's case is not covered under Stand Your Ground either. Right now he's charged with 2nd Degree Murder and honestly I think that's a stretch. They should have gone for manslaughter as they have in similar cases (in which Stand Your Ground immunity claims have been denied btw, as I expect it will be in the Zimmerman case).

However, if someone does break into my house at 4AM I'm not going to have a conversation with them to see what their intentions are. That would be a stand your ground case (assuming the person wasn't trying to run out of your house when you woke up). Before that people got SUED (or worse) in Florida for defending themselves in their own home.

Everyone needs to focus on facts that come out in the Zimmerman case and get over the Stand Your Ground law.

vividracing 06-26-2012 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattles (Post 279945)
I wasnt keeping very good track of the car, so it could have happened Friday night or Saturday sometime during the day. It was either starbucks on camelback @ 16th oooor somewhere in oldtown snobsdale. Im thinking most likely starbucks saturday morning though since its one of the few times I parked the car in an open lot, during the day, next to other cars, out my eyesight for atleast 45 minutes.
Its been too hot and Ive been too lazy to try my hand at repairing it. The subaru paint pen looks very easy to use, though.

I was gonna proceed thusly:
- tape off area
- wash thoroughly
- strip wax/etc
- IPA rub down
- wear gloves
- go to work with increasingly more abrasive compounds (clearcoat only though) to minimize the clearcoat damage (hand only, no orbital)
- after the clear coat only scratches have been buffed out, fill in deep color scratches with paint pen
- use my nifty scratch repair compound to smooth out the paint pen after its dry
- more hand buffing/finishing
- check it under some briiiight lighting
- cleaner/polish/sealant/wax then check the reflection again and see how I did

If all that fails, fuck it the car is going off to a paint correction specialist for all work just short of a full repaint.

Man that sucks. I'd bet it was Old Town on Friday night though. Lots of drunk morons down there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 280339)
That's not true at all.

You have to feel that your life or someone elses is in mortal danger, not just "that guy scared me". There are cases where people have tried to use the Stand your Ground defense and it's failed, because it was clearly outside the requirements. IMO Zimmerman's case is not covered under Stand Your Ground either. Right now he's charged with 2nd Degree Murder and honestly I think that's a stretch. They should have gone for manslaughter as they have in similar cases (in which Stand Your Ground immunity claims have been denied btw, as I expect it will be in the Zimmerman case).

However, if someone does break into my house at 4AM I'm not going to have a conversation with them to see what their intentions are. That would be a stand your ground case (assuming the person wasn't trying to run out of your house when you woke up). Before that people got SUED (or worse) in Florida for defending themselves in their own home.

Everyone needs to focus on facts that come out in the Zimmerman case and get over the Stand Your Ground law.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Mazdaspeed 06-26-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dori. (Post 280280)
Uh, if you can't tell the difference here, your car could easily be mistaken for a regular Mazda 3.

There is no mistaking an FR-S.

True, but I also never had trouble with my RX8 or IS300, both of which were attention grabbers in their day. I was just trying to determine if people are really so bad about this car or if there's something being done that might be agitating the pro-vandalism crowd (not that it takes much but I figured I'd ask).

Rossman 06-26-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 279932)
Maybe in Canada the police care, but not here in the US. Especially a place like NYC. It's a mixture of having way more important stuff to do, and just straight up not caring.

The alarm will scare the vandal off. Especially if you make your presence known every time the alarm goes off.

Stay up on the news my friend, it was all decided on the storeowners behalf in the end :)

As regards to the "Stand Your Ground" law, I'll leave debate of such to a gun owners forum!

Nevermore 06-26-2012 10:27 PM

I'm concerned about this as well, but for a different reason. I don't live in a city, but instead a subdivision. A ton of little kids live on my street and the garage is occupied, as well as the top of the driveway, so I have to park at the bottom of the driveway near the sidewalk. I dread parking the FR-S in this spot, but I have no choice. These kids will end up being the death of me >_>

Y2A 06-26-2012 10:36 PM

I live in flushing, in a pretty decent neighborhood, but it's street parking and we know how tight those streets can be:thumbdown:

On a side note, I saw a black frs or brz on Horace Harding expwy around 6pm today when I was on the bus:thumbup:

Rossman 06-26-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 280987)
I'm concerned about this as well, but for a different reason. I don't live in a city, but instead a subdivision. A ton of little kids live on my street and the garage is occupied, as well as the top of the driveway, so I have to park at the bottom of the driveway near the sidewalk. I dread parking the FR-S in this spot, but I have no choice. These kids will end up being the death of me >_>

I'll have to park similarly, and I'm not looking forward to it either.

Hawaiian 06-27-2012 02:32 AM

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...85466175_n.jpg

Some c0c< spit on my car tonight.

monkie 06-27-2012 02:43 AM

Sorry to hear that hope you catch the bastards :mad0260:

People that do this when caught the punishment needs to be that you get to tie them to the back of the car on a 10ft rope while you get one free run around your local drift track :burnrubber:

cgrey 06-27-2012 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by encity5 (Post 279414)
Where in manhattan? I work downtown but only drive out occasionally I haven't had issues yet parking in the city but Ive only parked downtown ish ctown/tribeca.

city driving and parking is a constant headache and worry... Now I feel like I should be worrying more about what streets I park

Chelsea area

cgrey 06-27-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 279538)
I've never had to park in the city yet but when I do, I'm more worried about the the bumper to bumper parking.

I saw an argento FRS on the Bronx River Parkway a few weeks ago. Was that you Cgrey?

Nope! Haven't been on that parkway in a while, did drive up and down the hutch last week though.

cgrey 06-27-2012 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PoRco (Post 279685)
Wow, awesome! Do you know how long the recording would last before it starts deleting? Just in case someone decides to KEY my car in the night, I don't want the camera to record over it.


Just noticed the "Parking Mode" function. Super cool! I think I might get this one too! :w00t:

It depends on the card size but in parking mode it will only record when it senses movement or shock so it won't fill the card or run your battery down.

jarviz 06-27-2012 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y2A (Post 281002)
I live in flushing, in a pretty decent neighborhood, but it's street parking and we know how tight those streets can be:thumbdown:

On a side note, I saw a black frs or brz on Horace Harding expwy around 6pm today when I was on the bus:thumbup:

I think that might have been me. Was it by the junction boulevard exit?

You park on the street in flushing!?!? You're not talking about Main Street flushing right? that's just crazy... I parked out by st. marks last night and realized I had a tight spot for two. I decided to park right in the middle to take up both parking spots. You never know if an SUV is gonna try to fit in to a tight spot and they wouldn't even know they hit you. So I can see a lot of douchebag parking coming from me in the near future. :paddle:

encity5 06-27-2012 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazdaspeed (Post 280442)
True, but I also never had trouble with my RX8 or IS300, both of which were attention grabbers in their day. I was just trying to determine if people are really so bad about this car or if there's something being done that might be agitating the pro-vandalism crowd (not that it takes much but I figured I'd ask).

My previous car, 2012 scion tc was keyed the week before Christmas in a mall parking lot (parked far away) I don't even think it was really an attention grabber. I assumed because "it's a scion". I didn't do anything to grab attention on my part. Just figured haters were around :/ ( nice long door to front fender key)

So still weary about having my frs for these kinds of idiots which unfortunately have struck cgreys car for no apparent reason

vitasoy 06-27-2012 12:05 PM

wow, I never had a problem with cigarette buds before or stickers.. that really sucks man, good luck in the future

if lordtakuban is right and I was in your position, the only solution would be revenge

vividracing 06-28-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 280460)
Stay up on the news my friend, it was all decided on the storeowners behalf in the end :)

As regards to the "Stand Your Ground" law, I'll leave debate of such to a gun owners forum!

No idea what you're talking about. I'm assuming something goin' on up there in Canadia Land?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 281831)
I think that might have been me. Was it by the junction boulevard exit?

You park on the street in flushing!?!? You're not talking about Main Street flushing right? that's just crazy... I parked out by st. marks last night and realized I had a tight spot for two. I decided to park right in the middle to take up both parking spots. You never know if an SUV is gonna try to fit in to a tight spot and they wouldn't even know they hit you. So I can see a lot of douchebag parking coming from me in the near future. :paddle:

That just gets more attention. I'd rather take the risk of someone being careless over someone intentionally damaging my car for parking like an idiot.

eriktherod 06-28-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by encity5 (Post 281887)
My previous car, 2012 scion tc was keyed the week before Christmas in a mall parking lot (parked far away) I don't even think it was really an attention grabber. I assumed because "it's a scion". I didn't do anything to grab attention on my part. Just figured haters were around :/ ( nice long door to front fender key)

So still weary about having my frs for these kinds of idiots which unfortunately have struck cgreys car for no apparent reason

So there may be an added benefit of rebadging it Toyota after all! ;)

Y2A 06-28-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 281831)
I think that might have been me. Was it by the junction boulevard exit?

You park on the street in flushing!?!? You're not talking about Main Street flushing right? that's just crazy... I parked out by st. marks last night and realized I had a tight spot for two. I decided to park right in the middle to take up both parking spots. You never know if an SUV is gonna try to fit in to a tight spot and they wouldn't even know they hit you. So I can see a lot of douchebag parking coming from me in the near future. :paddle:

I saw it passing the intersection of main st going towards manhattan direction

and hell no not main st lol, too many people that can't park for shit, but I live in one of the side streets off main st, near john bowne hs

Moto-P 06-29-2012 06:36 AM

It's not the car.... It's what AMERICA has become...


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