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miyoshi82 06-12-2015 07:18 PM

I'm thinking about quittng trying to pursue a RS 1.0 and go after a 2016 (that rear view camera might come in handy, I do have to park in tight spaces sometimes). Has anyone pressured the dealer into installing any performance parts for little to nothing? I would do it if they install a TRD CAI, TRD lowering springs, and TRD exhaust for free.

Spectral Entity 06-12-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alltezza (Post 2285118)
LOL pure pricing, I remember that when I tried to buy a monogram FRS and they wanted 32G for it, and I got mad and told them their friend across the street has a better deal for me (Subaru) and BAM got the BRZ 26,500

Where was that, Cool Springs?

I gotta say, I was close to pulling the trigger on DGM BRZ over principal (and slightly better features, but damned if I wasn't drawn right back to the Lava!

Tcoat 06-12-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2283507)
I told them I didn't want the TRD exhaust, drop in, lowering springs, tint, clear bra and spoiler but was no deal if not Lava. Since they didn't have another Lava I got most of it for free (and paid pennies on the dollar for what I didn't).

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2285172)
I'm thinking about quittng trying to pursue a RS 1.0 and go after a 2016 (that rear view camera might come in handy, I do have to park in tight spaces sometimes). Has anyone pressured the dealer into installing any performance parts for little to nothing? I would do it if they install a TRD CAI, TRD lowering springs, and TRD exhaust for free.

Yep. The difference was that the stuff was already on the car. They would not do the exhaust or springs for free but I paid only about 30% of the listed price for them and no installation fee. Not so sure you would get such a deal on the 16s since they are new though.

Alltezza 06-12-2015 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectral Entity (Post 2285178)
Where was that, Cool Springs?

I gotta say, I was close to pulling the trigger on DGM BRZ over principal (and slightly better features, but damned if I wasn't drawn right back to the Lava!

No it was in downtown Nashville, Beaman Toyota. I had issues with Darrel Wal trip in Franklin they were being let's say a little too judgmental and douchebags

Long story short lol I wasn't dressed fancy like your typical person in Franklin and they paid me little to no attention but then this fancy dressed couple walks in everyone was all over them. So yeah their loss, although they were the only dealership at the time that had a black BRZ that I wanted. But I'll settle for WRB

miyoshi82 06-13-2015 09:25 PM

Still sitting on either getting a RS 1.0 or going after a 2016 as of now. The 2016s are about to hit dealerships any time now, do you think it would be a good time to haggle dealerships for RS 1.0s that are still sitting on the lots? I'm thinking about going after one around August-September timeframe. I'm sure they'll reduce it under $30K by then. They have to right? To make room for the 2016s?

Packofcrows 06-13-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2286037)
Still sitting on either getting a RS 1.0 or going after a 2016 as of now. The 2016s are about to hit dealerships any time now, do you think it would be a good time to haggle dealerships for RS 1.0s that are still sitting on the lots? I'm thinking about going after one around August-September timeframe. I'm sure they'll reduce it under $30K by then. They have to right? To make room for the 2016s?

Just buy it from private party if you really wanna haggle. You can barely haggle for a Scion at a dealership..., unless you really are willing to put in time and miles in order to compare dealers. Like I said, I wen't to a LOT....literally a LOT, of dealerships. I got mine 3hrs away from where I live. Worth it. 8 months to find....for the price I wanted.


I'd get a new 2014/2015 next year, when they drop 2-3k...if they do. You can find them (well non special edition). There's a silver FR-S here in a dealer, 2013 with 2k miles. In my book, that's still brand new. X<5k=new imo. East Bay area had a few 1.0's a few weeks ago when I went to dealer for touch up paint. Just call up dealers in your area of SD.

miyoshi82 06-13-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2286046)
Just buy it from private party if you really wanna haggle. You can barely haggle for a Scion at a dealership..., unless you really are willing to put in time and miles in order to compare dealers. Like I said, I wen't to a LOT....literally a LOT, of dealerships. I got mine 3hrs away from where I live. Worth it. 8 months to find....for the price I wanted.


I'd get a new 2014/2015 next year, when they drop 2-3k...if they do. You can find them (well non special edition). There's a silver FR-S here in a dealer, 2013 with 2k miles. In my book, that's still brand new. X<5k=new imo. East Bay area had a few 1.0's a few weeks ago when I went to dealer for touch up paint. Just call up dealers in your area of SD.



All the RS 1.0s in SD are gone. Closest one is in some Scion dealership in Costa Mesa but they added a bunch of crap on it making the price $35K. I asked how much they would drop if they removed it and it was still around $33K.


Plan right now is to wait it out until August and buy from Longo Scion (if they still have their FRS 1.0s) and have it trucked down here since they told me before they can do it for no charge. If that falls through, go through Costa Mesa dealership and if that fails, I'll just get a new 2016 from the dealership down the street.


Sorry to ask, but what would you do if you were in my shoes? Wait out for a RS and see if they price drops over the summer or just wait for the 2016s to come out?

86_PWR 06-13-2015 11:46 PM

Pure price = pure profit

Packofcrows 06-14-2015 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2286054)
All the RS 1.0s in SD are gone. Closest one is in some Scion dealership in Costa Mesa but they added a bunch of crap on it making the price $35K. I asked how much they would drop if they removed it and it was still around $33K.


Plan right now is to wait it out until August and buy from Longo Scion (if they still have their FRS 1.0s) and have it trucked down here since they told me before they can do it for no charge. If that falls through, go through Costa Mesa dealership and if that fails, I'll just get a new 2016 from the dealership down the street.


Sorry to ask, but what would you do if you were in my shoes? Wait out for a RS and see if they price drops over the summer or just wait for the 2016s to come out?


Personally... the special editions are beautiful!

Now, even when theyve caught my eye, would i buy one? Nope. If i could afford a brand new one and had good patience, I'd get a 2016. By then any little issues would be resolved. ...hopefully. stiffer suspension i hear? Upgrade? :bonk:

Plus, i am not a fan of the interior controls. I like manual over digital. Also, SE banana car has no real mods you couldn't do to a stock frs. They didnt like boost hp by 25 or anything. Its really attractive though.

LSS I'd buy a 2016.

Spectral Entity 06-14-2015 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2286054)
Sorry to ask, but what would you do if you were in my shoes? Wait out for a RS and see if they price drops over the summer or just wait for the 2016s to come out?

Buy a plane ticket and fly out to Columbus, GA. They have an auto RS1.0 marked down to $28K because its an old-aged unit.

http://www.rivertownscion.com/new/Sc...4a8c2fb741.htm

miyoshi82 06-14-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectral Entity (Post 2286330)
Buy a plane ticket and fly out to Columbus, GA. They have an auto RS1.0 marked down to $28K because its an old-aged unit.

http://www.rivertownscion.com/new/Sc...4a8c2fb741.htm



I just looked at them via Autotrader and the car already has 132 miles on it. Were people using this as a test drive vehicle? Still interesting btw.


This is my first time buying a car out of state so I'm not sure how the taxing and licensing works.

Spectral Entity 06-14-2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2286486)
I just looked at them via Autotrader and the car already has 132 miles on it. Were people using this as a test drive vehicle? Still interesting btw.


This is my first time buying a car out of state so I'm not sure how the taxing and licensing works.

It's been sitting on the lot for about 9 months, so 132 miles is reasonable considering it has certainly been on a few test drives.

Buying out of state isn't hard; just let them know what your tax rate is and they may can roll out into the deal and cut you a check to pay back home, or not include taxes at all and let you handle them yourself.

Fujiumi 06-14-2015 11:37 PM

I did not really have to negotiate or haggle anything at Scion. The salesguy was really helpful to get me into the FR-S and immediately knocked off over $2K off the sticker and added $1000 more to my trade-in than I expected it to be worth in the Blue Book, getting my payments where I wanted them. He even bought me lunch while I waited around for the financing dept.
First time at any Toyota/Scion dealership and actually the best and most friendliest experiences I had buying a new car.

BobbyDee 06-14-2015 11:55 PM

I heard a rumor, every dealership has one RS1, not sure where I heard that from, but it was false. Just found out, Hamer Toyota in Mission Hills, CA has 3x RS1 in stock. But I tried haggling the RS1 with $28k cash/cashier check, didn't work.

Fujiumi 06-15-2015 12:05 AM

I am not sure how low a dealer can go on the price to make a profit for themselves and try to sell the car, but I would imagine in some cases, if they have a certain model of car which may have a higher demand or a special edition of a car where buyers are willing to pay full price, then they aren't going to immediately sell it to a buyer for a lower price just because they have cash in hand. The dealer is going to wait for that guy who has the money to pay full price. If the car wasn't selling at all, then they would probably negotiate, but if they expect to sell it quickly, then they aren't going to negotiate.

miyoshi82 06-15-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyDee (Post 2286891)
I heard a rumor, every dealership has one RS1, not sure where I heard that from, but it was false. Just found out, Hamer Toyota in Mission Hills, CA has 3x RS1 in stock. But I tried haggling the RS1 with $28k cash/cashier check, didn't work.

Thanks for the input, I'm still waiting on a few sub $30K RS 1.0s from dealerships out in the East Coast. It would probably be about the same if I bought one in-state since I would have to pay any transport fees and on top of that I would have to get the car inspected once I register it.

rice_classic 06-15-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 2282822)
The only things you can negotiate on is the price of your trade in and interest rate. The higher your trade in...the lower you pay for the car.

That's about it...

THIS.

I got them to give me $1000 more than what they were able to sell my trade-in for at auction (and that's hilarious) because they screwed up my order (by allowing the port installed options to go on the car which I specifically ordered without). I also went in with a pre-approved loan from my credit union for 2.4% so if they wanted my money they'd have to do better. Well, they wanted my money and gave me 1.8%.

G-awesome 06-15-2015 06:40 PM

When I got my frs, there was a current promo with $750 off sticker and no dealership fees at my dealer. I tried to get the price down lower and since they didn't budge, I went after free accessories and 75% off undercoating which I got. I paid in cash with insurance money from my accident with the brz btw. Soooo better than nothing I say!

Caspeed 06-15-2015 08:36 PM

Everything is negotiable!!! I got my 1st 2015 around 2K below sticker price. I returned it the next day to wait for the 1st RS1 that came in. Watch your interest rate, the dealers get the loan at one rate from the bank and sell it to you at a higher rate. Don't get hung up on payments, all they'll do is extend the term to get to "your" payment. Look at the total financial package.


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