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S2KtoFT86 10-26-2009 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 1885)
How will another car with a AT ruins the idea or what they call the sports car experience? a car is individual, it reflects the owner personality not the owners if one owner wants his car to be in show with lights and big ass speakers and 20 LCD screens thats on him, I'm not going to let a burned rice kill my buzz. childish rant like that are the one who labels real enthusiast away from any car not automatic transmission.
Where in the world did I make a childish rant? I was merely stating my opinion. If doing so means it's a childish rant then you are the one with the problem. :respekt:

4agze 10-26-2009 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1956)
Where in the world did I make a childish rant? I was merely stating my opinion. If doing so means it's a childish rant then you are the one with the problem. :respekt:
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Auto's ruin the experience at least for me. The S never came as an automatic and it sold really well for the first few years. If they're really wanting to revive the sports car then revive the true sports car. Autos are for bitches. Sorry.
here you go

My86 10-26-2009 03:02 PM
Everyone chilllll.. I think our FT-86 frustrations are already boiling over and we still have 2 years to wait :confused0068::bellyroll:

:happy0180::happy0180:

S2KtoFT86 10-26-2009 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 2005)
here you go
Again, that is my opinion. Guess you don't like to hear opinions if they differ from yours? :iono:

zigzagz94 10-26-2009 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 1926)
i agree with jordo. i daily drive an 05 s2k, i need my cars to have a clutch pedal, but it is snobby and honestly lame for me to wish the ft wouldn't have an automatic option for those that want it. i don't care if posers buy this car. i want this car to sell in large numbers to insure that it will stay on the market, unlike my s2k that got canned this year. even if posers buy this car, the fact of the matter is i'm not one of them, and i'm not gonna let posers ruin my enjoyment of this car. if you care so much about this being a purist car that you don't even want there to be an automatic option, you're basically telling me you care too much about how others perceive you when you drive the car. i could really give a crap less how others see me in this car, it's all about whether i enjoy how it drives or not. how would an option that you're not even going to buy somehow dilute your car? lame.
:word:

This pretty much sums up how I feel too.

Jordo! 10-26-2009 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 2022)
Again, that is my opinion. Guess you don't like to hear opinions if they differ from yours? :iono:
Did you really call guys with autos bitches??? Yeah, that's not at all childish :bellyroll:

You should log onto a GT-R or IS-F forum and tell them to sell their shitboxes and man up to a real car :laughabove:

Redline 10-26-2009 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PuGZoR (Post 1815)
Absolutely no doubt in my mind they'll release an automatic box for this car, if it goes to production. I don't have any figures to back this up, but here in Australia at least I'd say a minimum of half of all new cars these days are automatic, if not drastically more. Driving in traffic sucks and anyone who doesn't enjoy spirited driving will want an auto for their commute.
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Lets hope that this doesnt mean AUS and NZ dont even get the toyota ft-86:
http://www.ft86club.com/?p=47

PuGZoR, u may wanna look into it:sigh:

S2KtoFT86 10-26-2009 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2065)
Did you really call guys with autos bitches??? Yeah, that's not at all childish :bellyroll:

You should log onto a GT-R or IS-F forum and tell them to sell their shitboxes and man up to a real car :laughabove:
I wouldn't have a problem doing it. I'm not afraid of internet tough guys.

DanZilla 10-26-2009 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2065)
Did you really call guys with autos bitches??? Yeah, that's not at all childish :bellyroll:

You should log onto a GT-R or IS-F forum and tell them to sell their shitboxes and man up to a real car :laughabove:
:bellyroll:

Jordo! 10-27-2009 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 2070)
I wouldn't have a problem doing it. I'm not afraid of internet tough guys.
I think you missed the point... never mind... I'm gonna have a beer... :happy0180:

cyde01 10-27-2009 01:16 AM
everyone's entitled to their opinion, but some opinions are lame. that's my opinion. :)

OldSkoolToys 10-27-2009 01:39 AM
The sad part is that it takes only a few days of casual driving to learn how to use a standard transmission. If you don't know how to drive one, I'd just call you lazy.

Hell, such a skill might even save your life someday! What if you have to get away from some mass murderer and the only get-away option is a car with a standard transmission that is, for some ungodly known reason, outfitted with a on/off race clutch?

Things to think about!

cyde01 10-27-2009 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 2156)
The sad part is that it takes only a few days of casual driving to learn how to use a standard transmission. If you don't know how to drive one, I'd just call you lazy.

Hell, such a skill might even save your life someday! What if you have to get away from some mass murderer and the only get-away option is a car with a standard transmission that is, for some ungodly known reason, outfitted with a on/off race clutch?

Things to think about!
that's not the point!! everyone here involved in the discussion already knows how to drive manual! things to think about!

TRD 10-27-2009 01:54 AM
Hey guys auto is for everyone. Lets not make fun of it. I can careless if you got standard transmission.

OldSkoolToys 10-27-2009 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 2161)
that's not the point!! everyone here involved in the discussion already knows how to drive manual! things to think about!
Clearly wasn't talking about enthusiasts.

Jordo! 10-27-2009 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 2156)
What if you have to get away from some mass murderer and the only get-away option is a car with a standard transmission that is, for some ungodly known reason, outfitted with a on/off race clutch?

Things to think about!
Yeah...

Well you guys think about that and I'll have another beer :happy0180:

S2KtoFT86 10-27-2009 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2151)
I think you missed the point... never mind... I'm gonna have a beer... :happy0180:
Fine, I will retract my statement about autos being for bitches, because if I had the opportunity and the funds to buy one, I would most definitely be driving a GTR right now. That statement was a little crass and I apologize for saying it.

Hell, my DD would probably be an auto as well because like a few have said, shifting gears all day in your DD gets old sometimes. That might be why I'm kinda tired of my S.

DanZilla 10-27-2009 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 2174)
Fine, I will retract my statement about autos being for bitches, because if I had the opportunity and the funds to buy one, I would most definitely be driving a GTR right now. That statement was a little crass and I apologize for saying it.

Hell, my DD would probably be an auto as well because like a few have said, shifting gears all day in your DD gets old sometimes. That might be why I'm kinda tired of my S.
My old Yaris was stick! F you auto bishes! :thumbup:

S2KtoFT86 10-27-2009 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DanZilla (Post 2182)
My old Yaris was stick! F you auto bishes! :thumbup:
:laughabove:

DiceK 10-28-2009 09:09 AM
Mr. Tada, Chief engineer of the project team told they also develop automatic version exactly.
They are considering which automatic transmission is better, 5AT or CVT.

Arcangel 10-28-2009 10:22 AM
I could care less if it has an automatic, I dont drive them if it only came with an auto I wouldnt even entertain this vehicle, being as it comes with a 6 speed manual I'm in!

zbirdman777 10-28-2009 12:11 PM
I hope it doesn't come in auto because when a sorority girl pulls up next to you in the same car holding a chihuahua and applying her mary kay makeup it puts a world of hurt on ur mojo. I think a manual would keep their hands full. lol

Arcangel 10-28-2009 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zbirdman777 (Post 2490)
I hope it doesn't come in auto because when a sorority girl pulls up next to you in the same car holding a chihuahua and applying her mary kay makeup it puts a world of hurt on ur mojo. I think a manual would keep their hands full. lol
Totally with you there. I could think of something else to keep there hands full lol

Bochet 10-28-2009 01:15 PM
An automatic will allow Toyota to sell more of these cars. Anything that results in more sales is a good thing.

Porsche makes SUVs and Sedans. BMW makes ///M X5s now. Aston has penned a sedan.

Companies do what they need to be profitable. As long as it results in additiona profit and R&D $$s, it's no problem.

I wouldn't but it with an AT, but I know there are people who won't be it without one.

zbirdman777 10-28-2009 02:07 PM
Ur definitely right. In the real world I know there will be an AT but in my fantasy world AT sports cars don't exist. Maybe they should pull a Mazda and make the AT version slower like the RX-8. Put a Yaris engine in 'em. That'll teach them a lesson. Then we can stare down from our pedestal and snicker.

In all seriousness, if giving it an AT means the continuous production of this car I'm happy.

Bochet 10-28-2009 03:21 PM
I was actually going to say, "Even the RX8 has an auto, and it required a severely decreased redline on the engine and lower power"

It'll have an auto as an option and that's a good thing. I hope they sell like hot cakes.

S2KtoFT86 10-28-2009 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zbirdman777 (Post 2490)
I hope it doesn't come in auto because when a sorority girl pulls up next to you in the same car holding a chihuahua and applying her mary kay makeup it puts a world of hurt on ur mojo. I think a manual would keep their hands full. lol
:bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll:

NESW20 10-28-2009 06:16 PM
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Do you think FT-86 will have automatic?
yes, as an option.

-Mike

TRD 10-28-2009 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DiceK (Post 2479)
Mr. Tada, Chief engineer of the project team told they also develop automatic version exactly.
They are considering which automatic transmission is better, 5AT or CVT.
:w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t:

OldSkoolToys 10-28-2009 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zbirdman777 (Post 2490)
I hope it doesn't come in auto because when a sorority girl pulls up next to you in the same car holding a chihuahua and applying her mary kay makeup it puts a world of hurt on ur mojo. I think a manual would keep their hands full. lol

Hmmm, I've never had this problem.


Wonder why?

zbirdman777 10-28-2009 11:08 PM
Sorority girls don't deliver tofu! duh! hehe

ichitaka05 10-29-2009 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by zbirdman777 (Post 2490)
I hope it doesn't come in auto because when a sorority girl pulls up next to you in the same car holding a chihuahua and applying her mary kay makeup it puts a world of hurt on ur mojo. I think a manual would keep their hands full. lol
Hm... it doesn't even hurt my mojo. If I see a FT-86 pull up next to me and chick driving it, hey~ I'll give her a thumbs up for having nice taste in car! :party0030:

4agze 10-29-2009 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 2577)
Hm... it doesn't even hurt my mojo. If I see a FT-86 pull up next to me and chick driving it, hey~ I'll give her a thumbs up for having nice taste in car! :party0030:
:clap:

OldSkoolToys 10-29-2009 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 2577)
Hm... it doesn't even hurt my mojo. If I see a FT-86 pull up next to me and chick driving it, hey~ I'll give her a thumbs up for having nice taste in car! :party0030:
If a chick pulled up next to me driving an AE86 similarly done to mine, I'd ask her to skip the whole dating thing and just marry me.

But there's a distinct difference between having tastes for an AE86 and tastes for a brand new sporty little compact that daddy bought her.

/shrug

Lincoln Stax 10-29-2009 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by zbirdman777 (Post 2490)
I hope it doesn't come in auto because when a sorority girl pulls up next to you in the same car holding a chihuahua and applying her mary kay makeup it puts a world of hurt on ur mojo.
Doesn't put a hurt on my mojo. Maybe there's something wrong with your mojo. You should take it to your mojo dealer and have them put it on the diagnostic. Maybe it needs a new ECU or something.

Getting back on topic, yes, it will come with an auto. I want an FT-86 that's as light and fun to drive as possible, so I'll get mine with a manual. But I'm sure as hell not going to begrudge someone their auto if that's what they want. What other people want or need out of a car isn't the same as what I want or need, which is why options are a great thing.

Jordo! 10-29-2009 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DiceK (Post 2479)
Mr. Tada, Chief engineer of the project team told they also develop automatic version exactly.
They are considering which automatic transmission is better, 5AT or CVT.
Hmm. Interesting -- what's the source for this info?

I was thinking they'd go with the Aisin 6 AT -- never even thought of a CVT.

Ground N Pound 11-01-2009 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2595)
Hmm. Interesting -- what's the source for this info?

I was thinking they'd go with the Aisin 6 AT -- never even thought of a CVT.
Same here, I think everyone assumes that they'll go with Aisin trannies because of their relationship.

BTW, does Aisin have any dual clutch transmissions anyone know? Who makes the one in the IS-F?

scape 11-01-2009 11:04 AM
i'd imagine a 5AT would be on this car, at the very least.

MtnDrvr86 11-01-2009 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ground N Pound (Post 3222)
Same here, I think everyone assumes that they'll go with Aisin trannies because of their relationship.

BTW, does Aisin have any dual clutch transmissions anyone know? Who makes the one in the IS-F?

The ISF doesnt have a dual clutch, Toyoda said using one made it not feel like its not shifting or something, so they went the route thet ferarri went with their f1 gearboxes and makes it shift within i think its 200 milliseconds.

Im thinking it will at least have a 5at. CVT just plain suck. Either way, an auto will be gearded toward gas milage.:thumbdown:

NESW20 11-01-2009 04:28 PM
the ISF has an 8 speed auto.

-Mike


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