I say 11+ because widebody went on everything at that point, but yes I generally agree - I'm aware of their quality issues for 11-12. So I guess 13+ would be best. And while the pre-widebody isn't all that different (read: any) - They just look so... tame in comparison. I'm all for sleepers and stuff, but Subaru knows how to do wide body, and it's damn gorgeous.

Also, for those saying Focus ST - Why? I'm not going to jump in and be all "FWD IS CRAP BOOO" about the car, because it's really quite a good car, BUT: The transmissions and turbo's on the 12-13 models had tons of issues, and Ford's had to post so, so many TSB's for the car. I'd avoid the whole Fiesta\Focus ST line until that's all resolved, or only go in for a brand new one with a full warranty.

even the bugeyes have "widebody" flares? dunno whatcha mean about that (honestly, not bein sarcastic/snide)

This thread makes me want a vasectomy.

explain your feelings to us

Get a STI 2015 or an Evo if you can.

a 2015 WRX wouldn't be bad either.

But idk our age gap is probably a lot bigger lol why don't you ride in a style and get a Q50 or something

This

http://i.imgur.com/q3NkQbF.jpg

Which aside from the hood scoop had the same bodywork as the base Impreza..

To this:

http://i.imgur.com/ycAGmAZ.jpg

which is the full on wide-body kit off of the STi for the most part, on the standard WRX. I just think it looks worlds better.

I know there's not much of a performance difference, but it just looks... so good. :wub:

Ohhh. I get you now. I wouldn't even consider the '08-'10s EVER. What a bastard year. It's bad enough the new ones look like mazdas/evo copies. That whole platform is taking a huge nosedive aesthetically.. the '13-'14 is my favorite of the newer.

The 02-07 had widebody :D. My baby.. that jdm hoodscop, lol.
http://i.imgur.com/hzly7ve.jpg

thanks

ya am about 35 yrs old
fwd personally I would not like to have cuz I may as well get that mini van and call it a day lol

going in style yes and that is the reason why the audi is in there. but dont feel right shelling out that much.

time for a 4door?
 

On family point of view that redesign rouge is nice.... But I would rather pick juke.... & since you bring out Venza too. Venza is a easy win cuz Nissan material feels far less comfy despite the minimal difference.

Another car that nobody mentions but will make both U & UR FAMILY HAPPY & U should HOLD ON for is Subaru Levorg!!

Think 2015 WRX + OLD Volvo MY GOD!!! No need to thank me. ;)

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my old car was a 2008 nissan rogue, felt under powered but enough for day to day use, right before i sold it i took 4 people +gear, snowboarding; terrible mistake i forgot NA cars don't do well at higher elevation. LOL

I'd go with a v6 venza, the 2gr is a beast, yet calm and smooth when your not pushing it.

Your pics are borked and with no solid release date, who knows when it'll come over. I'd be all over it if it was the next few months.

Oh it's easy, you start by this. :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/levorgforamerica

The page also have all the info & review about levorg haha

It's basically a dressed up WRX wagon since there is no WRX wagon now & not that hard for them to bring it over.


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Actually what about a Juke Nismo? That's Turbo'd and its a cross over and you can get it FWD or AWD.

Or the RS Juke. They cost almost the same as a FRS or BRZ maybe a couple hundred cheaper.

Ah, see it was less a criticism of commenters and more so on the OP, with the huge range he is comparison shopping (Toyota Sienna vs. Audi S3, wtf) it's obvious he has no idea what he needs or a true directive of what he wants, we are barely a step above "4 Doors" here.

A 15 month old means 2 years ago his(or her) family went +1, before (s)he even posted on here. This is not a surprise situation for OP but rather something they have had literally years to think about. It's obvious (to me) this is the kind of person who is much more satisfied going with their gut and who's time would be much better spent reading comparison tests and seeing the cars in person than polling fanbois on an enthusiast site in order to get quality carbuying advice.

I fully expect a post in a year "halp, can't fit two strollers in my WRX, should I buy an Acura MDX or Ford Raptor?"

And your 'artefacts' are not helpful, comments on handling dynamics and transmissions that can't handle more power are of low consequence to a person mostly concerned with taking Johnny and Jane to the park in the afternoon while saving up for their college education.

That's what I am doing...getting a q50s and keeping my 86. The wifey will use the q50s for daily driving.

(Please read as actual questions not as sarcasm)
Why is it "not hard for them to bring over"?
Have they even been tested and approved for the NA market?
Is there any sign of NA marketing?

thank you I didnt even know such car exist. looks good but wonder what the price range would be and hopefully comes to canada.

Oh no not you Tcoat! :brokenheart:

It's coming, It's alreadys onsale in Japan & england.
The Euro spec aka left hand drive one will debut next month at Geneva, subaru designed this at the same time with current gen WRX/Sti with Legecy body. Knowing how subaru is, it will take them a while to get the production line ready, but I don't think there is much stoping them. :wub: Hope is high on this one.

For a family of 4, I don't think a Sienna is necessary. My family (5) had a 2006 Sienna and only put 22,000 miles on it in 5 years. We used it for long driving but it was so impractical for short trips like to the mall especially when only going alone or with one other person.

But if you really want a family hauler, the 2015 Highlander is another alternative. It gets 2mpg city over the Sienna's 18. It allows Seating for 8 (LE model) and is probably more enjoyable to drive than a non-SE Sienna. Overtime I think you'll be more Satisfied with the Highlander. I recommend test driving both of you really can't make up your mind. But test drive the Highlander first, & if you like it, don't bother testing out the Sienna to save time and maybe save the salesman a little more time. They'll appreciate that and give you a good deal :)

Get a 5 door VW Golf. They're now turbocharged like their older brother (GTI).

Not haten' man!
Just wondered. There are 100s of vehicles overseas that never make it here I am afraid.

they are helpful if you consider the whole reason for buying a WRX over the base impreza. Is that not helpful to save the guy the headache of buying a "sports sedan" that is terribly outclassed by the immediate early and later revisions? The WRX 5mts BREAK all the time, even at stock power levels. It's a consequence of their design- How do I know? I've rebuilt one, and installed 3 5mts, two of them in my own wrx, within 6 years. My current 5mt is the RA cryo gearset with straight cut 1-3, and even then, I am nervous.

Just think a little more on calling out whether or not something is helpful, because one should always take into consideration the holistic picture of the system, not just select features that are "attractive" to their lifestyle and life trajectory.

Then the family grows +2 more and they should have bought a Sienna.

Then the kids love camping, the Rogue becomes a better option with the ground clearance and storage.

It's great that you want to feel important and knowledgeable, that's why half us fuckwads are here, BUT the OP has some fundamental questions about his intentions before seriously considering the details you think are the deciding factor between a mini-van and a car that can go 0-60 in 4.4 seconds.

I don't need to come here to feel important or "knowledgeable" (I prefer to learn, rather than 'know', in this day and age). Genuinely trying to help the guy the only way I am comfortable with advising, and that is wrxes. All his other considerations I don't know about, or feel inclined to learn about, so I don't post about them.

Seriously don't know what your problem is strat.. you're always such a crasshole ;)

There comes a time in everybody's (well most people's) life where they have to put away their toys and be all practical and grown up.
The good news is that eventually kids also grow up and move out and we can go back to our toys.
The even better news is that the toys are usually far superior to the ones we put away 20 or more years ago!
I am so glad I get to play with my toys again!!!!!!!!

IDK you're the one who started the conversation, I honestly didn't even read your post in this thread before you quoted me.

:iono:

I disagree, kids can get in karts at 5 years old.

:burnrubber:

Talking about Dads cool hotrod here not about what the kids can do!

Well you can't show them left foot braking in a Sienna :bonk:

Well at least, not in a useful manner...


Actually you can, that was a terrible example, let's go with countersteering a drift.

:burnrubber:

https://i.imgur.com/dRXPch.jpg

get an evo

Golf GTI. The MKVII is a great car.


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I jumped ship to a 2014 Evo mr when I faced the same situation. Different strokes for different folks, but it's been a blast to drive in and out of traffic.

I'll add my 2 cents! Buy what you can afford and meets your needs. My suggestion is buy a used mini van like a Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna and call it a day. Kids grow up fast.

I just bought an Audi A4. Cheap insurance. Very safe. Handles well for a heavy car. 6MT is great. Plenty of aftermarket support. You honestly have to drive one though. Looking up specs doesn't tell the story.


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If OP cant hold the frs and other family vehicle then he can buy whichever van/suv wife's like
and buy a miata for weekend toy, cheap parts easy to work.
I started to considere the vasectomy lol