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Nikkojoe 06-11-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravine (Post 252281)
That's expected from every new car bought. I hope they didn't make it sound like a freebie!

Nope but dealers in Perth had options for 6months if you didn't specify.

Even a few years back dealers could (may still also) put a minimum 3months to make their drive away price cheaper.

Unless you are talking about full tank, then no it aint a freebie either...

Ako 06-11-2012 05:12 PM

Looks like Toyota may already be looking to raise the price of the 86.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257A17001383EB

sticky 06-11-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ako (Post 253006)
Looks like Toyota may already be looking to raise the price of the 86.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257A17001383EB

Excellent! Forget your stocks and property gentleman. Buy an 86 now and profit! :happyanim:

newft86 06-11-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChocolateNick (Post 252216)
Out of interest, does the $1895 include registration and stamp duty or is that separate?

Hi mate, no, dealer delivery fees do not include what are commonly referred to as government statutory charges, ie, rego, ctp green slip, stamp duty, etc.

Nardi330 06-11-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ako (Post 253006)
Looks like Toyota may already be looking to raise the price of the 86.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257A17001383EB

i'm not surprised.

they got the point across now and i'd bet by the beginning of 2013 they will increase the price slightly.

newft86 06-11-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravine (Post 252281)
That's expected from every new car bought. I hope they didn't make it sound like a freebie!

It might be what you have asked for with every new car deal my friend but i can assure you, having been in the industry for over 13 years that manufacturers rarely (if ever) have new cars freighted to dealerships with a full tank of fuel in any car. The average is between 5-15 litres if you're lucky. I have seen some new cars come to a dealership (not ours) with no fuel in them at all and they run out as the driver's are trying to get them off the trucks.

Sorry, i'm not trying to be patronizing but please don't take it for granted my friend, if a dealer gives it to someone as part of a deal or a deal sweetener then it is a freebie because the dealer doesn't get free fuel, they have to pay for it just like you and i do.

newft86 06-11-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 253280)
i'm not surprised.

they got the point across now and i'd bet by the beginning of 2013 they will increase the price slightly.

Another point is that if they do increase the RRP (Recommended Retail Price set by the manufacturer inclusive of GST, sometimes referred to by clients as the list price* and dealers as the base price), allow me to share with you that the clause on most if not all NSW contracts of purchase of a motor vehicle that says something along the lines of "Price Ruling On Delivery Applies" means that even if you purchased the vehicle before the RRP increase the RRP increase WILL APPLY ON DELIVERY in other words if the price goes up before you pay for the car in full you may be asked to pay the price it is on the day - not what you signed up for in the beginning. If, however, you decide to cancel after you have been informed by the dealer that this has taken place, you may do so within three (3) days by giving written notice to the dealer. That's how it works in NSW anyway, not sure about the other states & territories.

As far as i know this particular clause was introduced to protect both the dealer and the customer from manufacturer price rises. Remember that when the RRP increases, so does the stamp duty and the GST as GST is included in RRP.

*List price commonly has 2 different meanings - to a customer it's the RRP, to a dealer it's the RRP excluding GST which is commonly used as a starting point when preparing a fleet quote or invoice.

Nardi330 06-11-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by newft86 (Post 253304)
Another point is that if they do increase the RRP, allow me to share with you that the clause that states on NSW contracts of purchase of a motor vehicle that says something along the lines of "Price Ruling On Delivery Applies" means that even if you purchased the vehicle before the RRP increase the RRP increase WILL APPLY ON DELIVERY in other words if the price goes up before you pay for the car in full you may be asked to pay the price it is on the day - not what you signed up for in the beginning. If, however, you decide to cancel after you have been informed by the dealer that this has taken place, you may do so within three (3) days by giving written notice to the dealer. That's how it works in NSW anyway, not sure about the other states & territories.

which suck!! no other way to describe it.

but thanks Andrew for pointing this out so potential buyers can take this into account.

Ravine 06-11-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by newft86 (Post 253292)
Sorry, i'm not trying to be patronizing but please don't take it for granted my friend, if a dealer gives it to someone as part of a deal or a deal sweetener then it is a freebie because the dealer doesn't get free fuel, they have to pay for it just like you and i do.

I know they have to pay for the fuel but never once have I had to explicitly ask for the car to be filled up.

Maybe I've been lucky.

newft86 06-11-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravine (Post 253347)
I know they have to pay for the fuel but never once have I had to explicitly ask for the car to be filled up.

Maybe I've been lucky.

Yep, they sound like a good bunch mate.

newft86 06-11-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 253312)
which suck!! no other way to describe it.

but thanks Andrew for pointing this out so potential buyers can take this into account.

Welcome mate :)

ChocolateNick 06-11-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JFC (Post 252098)
Why give them a chance :thumbdown:

Just walk

Not to be hard on salesman but they have to learn, look after me or i walk. Unfortunately a few bad apples spoil the bunch as they say.

I have made an order with another dealer and am about to cancel my one now. Looks like I will keep my extra $2000.

Nikkojoe 06-11-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravine (Post 253347)
I know they have to pay for the fuel but never once have I had to explicitly ask for the car to be filled up.

Maybe I've been lucky.

Very lucky! With all the new cars I've bought or been there during the purchase process it has never been the case. Rather have the $60-70 in my pocket for the next full tank :)

Nothing better than getting into your new car with a full tank to start driving it everywhere, rather than waste time waiting at a busy servo 1km down the road.

mark 06-12-2012 10:13 AM

I agree, the dealer I got my Cilo 197 from gave it a full tank and even asked what fuel brand i preferred. a 'prestige' dealer in sydney sold me a Jetta on fuel light.. also cigarette lighter was not working and now the airbag lights are on.. never buy a VW

stevo_12v 06-12-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikkojoe (Post 252203)
So I put my deposit down today to secure one for around dec delivery (may be earlier but don't care).

$39,100 with 12months rego and full tank of fuel for a White GTS 6MT.

Hi Nikkojoe, which dealer was this if you don't mind me asking? You could PM me the answer if you want.

Thanks

Nikkojoe 06-12-2012 10:45 PM

It was Galleria Toyota in Morley. Kalamunda Toyota was the next cheapest at 39274 with the same deal, but Morley is much closer to me so I negotiated to get that deal.

The most expensive I had was 39800 with 6months rego and no fuel deal, so to put it in perspective it would have been close to 40100. Just need to go in there and know what you want before doing any deals :)

stevo_12v 06-13-2012 12:22 AM

Ahhh thanks I've already pre ordered a couple of months ago.

I went to the see that red GTS that was in Perth yesterday, and apparently my car will be due for delivery first week of July, but I didn't talk prices with the sales person as yet, that is why I was asking what your drive-away price was. Many thanks!

spiller 06-13-2012 01:25 AM

I think id be inclined to cancel if they try and hike the price up on me before I take delivery. I doubt toyota will increase the pricing for the first batch anyway...

Chocolate man 06-13-2012 04:54 AM

Drive away prices for GT Manual, anyone? And those who have prices for their 86s, did you haggle?

Wally Simmonds 06-13-2012 04:56 AM

32573, but obviously that may change on the 18th.

Chocolate man 06-13-2012 05:01 AM

Nice. If you don't mind, which dealer is that from? I doubt it'll change that soon...if the price is going to increase it'll be at least 3 months away...

Gir 06-13-2012 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wally Simmonds (Post 255747)
32573, but obviously that may change on the 18th.

That's almost a grand less then I was expecting. What's the dealership?

Wally Simmonds 06-13-2012 05:10 AM

Brighton Toyota in Melbourne. Tbh guys, I think I've made an error - Im not sure how much stamp duty is supposed to be, but it looks like they've calculated it just on the dealer delivery fees, rego and all that jazz, and not on the total price. I'm reasonably new to this country so don't really know how stamp duty works, but my understand is that'd be slight over a grand for a car of this price?

If so, then yeah, will probably be around 33.5. Sorry guys!

sticky 06-13-2012 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wally Simmonds (Post 255754)
Brighton Toyota in Melbourne. Tbh guys, I think I've made an error - Im not sure how much stamp duty is supposed to be, but it looks like they've calculated it just on the dealer delivery fees, rego and all that jazz, and not on the total price. I'm reasonably new to this country so don't really know how stamp duty works, but my understand is that'd be slight over a grand for a car of this price?

If so, then yeah, will probably be around 33.5. Sorry guys!

I believe it's 2.5% of the RRP in Victoria mate. So it should be around $750.

Wally Simmonds 06-13-2012 05:22 AM

Definitely more than $45 bucks though :P

If that's all the costs, then whatever the stamp duty is (minus 45 bucks) on top of 32573. So around about 33298, which is still quite good I think. They've listed the paint as 'metallic', so hopefully that's included too.

Mr.Ferret 06-13-2012 06:54 AM

33,800 GT manual Drive away, does that line up with most others?

spiller 06-13-2012 08:40 AM

^^ that seems about right.

Mr.Ferret 06-13-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spiller (Post 255829)
^^ that seems about right.

I thought so too, nice to hear :)

Chocolate man 06-13-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Ferret (Post 255776)
33,800 GT manual Drive away, does that line up with most others?

Yeah sounds right. Which dealership?

Mr.Ferret 06-13-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate man (Post 255856)
Yeah sounds right. Which dealership?

Ballarat, bit out of Melbourne, haven't been to the dealer yet just emailing so far.

Chocolate man 06-13-2012 09:26 AM

Ah ok. When you do head down there might be worth asking them to cut down on their dealer delivery price- usually their source of profit and they would be happy to cut down on it if they're desperate enough- up to you. Still a good price :)

catcha 06-13-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Ferret (Post 255776)
33,800 GT manual Drive away, does that line up with most others?

going by this https://www.facebook.com/toyota.aus/300194403377139?sk=app_405401529498193

its $33748** depends on state I guess. Thats Full RRP would have room to move if demand was not so high


I will also be in the hunt for a white GT. Just waiting for BRZ to come out and see how that will affect Toyota or what Subaru price there's at

Blazereaper 06-13-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by catcha (Post 255974)
going by this https://www.facebook.com/toyota.aus/300194403377139?sk=app_405401529498193

its $33748** depends on state I guess. Thats Full RRP would have room to move if demand was not so high


I will also be in the hunt for a white GT. Just waiting for BRZ to come out and see how that will affect Toyota or what Subaru price there's at

Hey catcha, you looking for a manual or auto? Pm me, i know where you can get one if you are interested in wa

dangerfield 06-13-2012 07:57 PM

Negotiated a firm $41,000 for my GTS Auto.. doesn't seem too bad :)

sticky 06-13-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dangerfield (Post 256923)
Negotiated a firm $41,000 for my GTS Auto.. doesn't seem too bad :)

You bastard! how did you get such a good deal? :mad0259:

ReppohC 06-13-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by catcha (Post 255974)
Just waiting for BRZ to come out and see how that will affect Toyota or what Subaru price there's at

You will be waiting a while then, seeing how 1) they are only bringing in 200 BRZs and 2) they have been pre-ordered already. Its a numbered limited edition (same spec as the GTS though). The Subaru dealer I spoke to said "mid 40s" and required a hefty deposit, and ~2 years before they consider bringing any more in. I'd be surprised if he wasn't too far off on his price guesstimate just because they have already gotten ~200 people to sign up at that price.

Chocolate man 06-14-2012 12:43 AM

^^ spot on.

On another note, are there anymore melbournians here who would be willing enough to give me a rough low down on which dealerships to avoid and which to you'd recommend when it comes to driveaway prices?

Any info would be kewl :thanks:

ChocolateNick 06-14-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate man (Post 257327)
^^ spot on.

On another note, are there anymore melbournians here who would be willing enough to give me a rough low down on which dealerships to avoid and which to you'd recommend when it comes to driveaway prices?

Any info would be kewl :thanks:

I wont bad mouth anyone, but I d recommend Lane Toyota in Glen Waverly.

dangerfield 06-14-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sticky (Post 256932)
You bastard! how did you get such a good deal? :mad0259:

Was just really friendly with the guy, had a good chat and then when we got to talking money I told him 41k is my max price :thumbup:

It's not that much of a saving really, but a few extra hundred towards tinting and a restyle of plates is always good :D

proficience 06-14-2012 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dangerfield (Post 257400)
Was just really friendly with the guy, had a good chat and then when we got to talking money I told him 41k is my max price :thumbup:

It's not that much of a saving really, but a few extra hundred towards tinting and a restyle of plates is always good :D

Wow thats a really good deal mate! pearlescent paint?

damn, I thought mine was really good


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