Why do you need "coilovers"... why not quality dampers with proper matched springs? If it isn't primarily a track car, you really don't need coilover - not to mention with non-adjustable dampers you don't have to worry about the height adjustment ever shifting on you no matter what you do with the car. I'd look into a good non-adjustable damper setup (Bilstein) instead for a mainly DD vehicle... much more alignment bullet proof.

I've ridden in numerous cars with BCs as well.

Not to mention, my wife's Focus ST has them and after a few months, she's ready to have them taken off. So am I.

I told her not to, but she insisted on BCs, and now she knows what I was talking about.

I can't imagine you needing to spend any more than $200 for TRD springs, which will give you the perfect 2 finger wheel gap you're looking for, stiffer than stock, more composed ride (less bouncy over rough roads), and more comfortable (subjective). Really not sure why people feel compelled to pay $1000 for a suspension set up that's going to be worse than a set of quality aftermarket springs for 1/5 the price. If you're on a budget DON'T BUY COILOVERS.

As far as buying a turbo/exhaust/wheels/anything else immediately after purchase, drive the car in its current form for a while before you make massive changes to the car. The car is nearly perfect from the factory and really only needs minor tweaks.

Want some really good dd mods? Try clutch spring removal, clutch pedal lowering, stage 1 tune, adjusting mirrors to have no blind spot, correcting your seating position, and removing the cotton ball in your sound tube. These are all completely free and much better for a dd than exhaust drone or a massive turbo. You should not spend a penny on mods until every single one of these are done.

I'd go with ST, I have it on my e90. It's my daily driver and it rides very smooth. It doesn't have any adjustment on the dampers but it's my DD so it's not an issue.

I got BC for my gf's CT and it rides pretty good, I don't see a problem. I used to be like some of the guys here that judge on some products because of their price range, they proved me wrong and have a very good warranty. $95 to replace a shock if it blows out, with a BRAND NEW one. My buddy got it for his e46, it rode nice, drove it down to SoCal without any issues. I still think proper damper and some lowering springs would ride better simply because of the softer spring rates but it doesn't allow you to drop it where you want.

riding on ST coils here...would buy them again

The stage 1 tune ? You mean the open flash tablet ? Or a different way?
And the cotton ball in the sound tube ? That's the tube that comes from the left side of the intake ?

i run bc. i love it. sure, some poeple had probleme with their set.

its not like nobody had problem with their xbox, cars, tv...nothing is perfect on this world.

what can we really expect from a 1000$ coilover set?

+ i can set the height at the level I WANT.

That doesn't make sense. No health organization recommends junk food. It's still the wrong choice. What people do and what people should do are not the same thing.

Mom and dad can afford $25k for a new car, but allowance can't afford $2k suspension.

That's exactly what my post is saying in an analogy. Could you please attempt to comprehend my post before you try to deny it?

sorry i was at work and cant really spend a lot of time on forums. what i meant is that it doesnt work because good meals cost more that junk meals. it would work if eating a steak kept you full longer than eating 6 dollars worth of jack n the box.

I feel the same about not skimping out on suspension and also enjoying the car as it comes. But nearly perfect, and needing only 'minor tweaks' are truly subjective. It's set up VERY nicely from factory, albeit a little underpowered until you get into the twisties and feel that harmony of power and movement that is the stock setup- truly wondrous thing to feel. But I wouldn't say nearly perfect, and a number of us enthusiasts would, as evidenced by our tinkering and modding, feel as well.. doesn't mean it's wrong to keep stock or to mod heavily, I think the congruent lesson here is that we should enjoy whatever we do

The only reason why I say feels underpowered is because we're currently in a culture that pumps out 300hp+ SUVs and family sedans, 700hp challengers, etc. etc... the 86 is not quick, but good lord is she fast, especially when the roads start to take shape.

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Before you buy anything I would ask yourself specifically why you want coilovers. With that in mind you can decide if a low cost option will meet your needs.


From my experience if comfort is a priority then skip this mod until you can afford something similar to a V3. For those who primarily want to be quicker around a track then the BC's are fine as part of an inexpensive upgrade plan.

If you know anyone with a Tactrix Cable and laptop, you can use that method for flashing one of the OFT tunes, since they are open-source and free to use for all. That being said, I really like the work Shiv and his team has done and would recommend buying an OFT to anyone who has the money, but if cash is tight, Tactrix works just as well, but requires a little more setup. Shoot me a message if you want any more info.

And the sound tube is the tube that comes from the left side of the intake. If you look inside the cabin where the passenger's feet would be and move back the floor mats, you should see the other end of the tube. A set of needle nose pliers and a flashlight are all you'll need to remove that cotton ball.

Those two mods together give the car a menacing growl between about 3-4k rpms, and improves the tone through redline.

Don't you need to get the alignment adjusted every time you adjust height? I guess if you have all the tools and know-how and a lot of spare time, this probably isn't a big deal, but it is much more complex than turning 4 screws. Oh, and the more adjustability you have in your setup, the harder it is to align correctly. People do adjust without aligning, but then again, people cut their springs and install steering wheels without airbags on their DD's. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

What he said on a budget. Also enjoy the stock car for awhile and think this through. Rushing out and buying cheap coilovers just because?

Check out Race Comp Engineering and maybe give them a call:

http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...uspension.html

your right, by the book we should align each time the height change.

but its not because its adjustable, that i need to change it everyday.

once its set at the right level, i just leave it there.

my point is, the difference between a set of lowered coil, you can adjust the height with the bc coil-over, thats just not the case with a set of lowered spring.

Cotton ball? Mine didn't have a cotton ball and I have never heard of one before from anybody else.
Hated that "menacing growl" with a passion as it sounded more like a buzzing kazoo then anything else. Though I do see how it could benefit anybody with the stock exhaust by giving a little more aural feedback.

Sorry, it's not a "cotton ball", but rather a foam piece that's stuffed into the sound tube. Here's a picture:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1354970938

Sorry for the confusion!

Thanks! You had me baffled for a minute there!!!!
Removing that may indeed help with the kazoo sound.

This is just my personal opinion, the coilovers i suggest most of the time, for those that daily and see occasional trackdays, are RSR Sport-i. I've been in just about every set up out except Ohlins, and i have just about everything available to me, i still chose the RSR because of how they felt on the street. I recommend KW V3's if your tracking more often. or CSG's favorite Tein SRC's, both can be setup to run properly on the street also.

I know more about suspension from my sportbike days and racing, and i know that spending money on a quality setup not only means a better ride on the track, but also on the street. Proper valving damping means alot. So going cheap for some of the suspension kits out there wont give you a better ride, no matter how much your mind is trying to justify the 1k you just dropped. We have a guy here on XXXX coilovers that swear its the best thing ever. its rough, its jarring, its bouncy, but he thinks its racecar, or "driftcar" so he is happy, yet i can do everything he car, just as easy with my RSR's but don't have to stop to go over bumps or rail road tracks or look like im bouncing around in my car going over a rough road.

Before the cheapest coilovers i recommended were Fortune Auto, with the swift spring upgrades, that car i spent time in felt really good, i know the shop spent some time getting it set up but once it was it was a good ride. NOW the cheapest coilover i recommend is the Skunk2. I was really surprised with the ride, quality, and ease of setup. driving around the bumpy section of road down from the shop its almost as good as my RSR setup. It may be slightly stiffer, but ever so slightly. While i haven't drove out to any really curvy roads on them, my time spent on the street, i believe for the money under 1200$ its the best sub 1500$ coilover out as of this time. I still recommend the RSR's but under that i suggest looking into the Skunk2 Pro C setup.

-Thomas

Based on the OP's posts, I have to side with those recommending springs. Don't buy a Jacuzzi if all you want is a bath.

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was curious but got this

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