I'm in my first year of Biology studies. The zoo is something of relevant study for me actually. I might even major in zoology.

The question that should be asked is what are you doing with your life?

It's a shame you had to ruin your first reply by coming off as offensive now.

I'll take that as a clear win for me. Guy asks me to explain how he's sexist, and he responds with that. :thumbup:

I think that men and women share the road equally, at least with regards to the United States. I'm not sure what you're facts are for suggesting that men drive more than women? It also seems that you have a subjective view of "better" driving which 'safe' doesn't fall into. Using your same assumptive view, you could argue that women spend more time with their children, and therefore are more likely to be with their children while driving, and therefore (in general) would be overall more 'cautious' drivers, but that doesn't change the fact that that is a sexist statement and not all truth in the world we're living in today.

In my personal experience, there are both men and women who drive well (we'll call them people), and men and women who are bad drivers (let's also call them people, or stupid people if you prefer).

If you're wanting to support a proclamation with facts and/or statistics with regards to men and women drivers - well, there is a reason that men have higher insurance premiums, and doing a brief search on this forum for people that have been involved in an accident state that more often than not "some guy" or "someone" did this or that to their car, and not "some woman" - but instead of a more ambiguous pronoun (someone, this person, etc) when referring to a man, when referring to a woman you will almost always see "a woman" or "some chick" attached to it, and so it tends to stick out to us when we read those, even if the opposite is true when you look at the big picture.

In addition, while you'll always see the feminine pronouns attached to the subject when referring to a woman, you'll often see adjectives when referring to a man that suggest that that individual doesn't fall into the typical category of male driver ("an older guy", "some kid that just got his license", "a drunk driver"), as if they're some sort of outlier - whereas you tend to just see "woman" with regards to the opposite sex given the same situations.

Anyway, that post was longer than I intended it to be - please keep this forum awesome, and refrain from sexist, racist, or religious commentary - especially if you're going to leave it devoid of investigative fact.

I think that OP (originally, anyway) was mostly concerned with his mom getting harassed just like any of us driving around in a sport car can be subjected to - such as people attempting to incite a race, tailgating, etc., but I think that the cause of those fears tends to be due to the sort of car that you're driving, and not necessarily who is behind the wheel driving it.

Where you're mistaken is that this is somehow some game or competition that necessitates the need for a winner and loser.

But if your dull and "lacklustre" days are made better by your perception of a 'win' in this discussion, then I once again humbly accept your gratitude.

Go back to watching your anime now.

My mom borrowed my FRS and she stated that some random guy in a sports car gave her a peace sign. Lol :thumbup:

I was at the post office last week and a 70-something lady came up to my FRS and exclaimed about how "classy" it was (truely it is) and how she did not realize that SCION made such a classy car. She also liked the color and in fact was wearing a t-shirt the exact same color (hot lava). If your Mom drives the car you may not get it back. It's a chick magnet.

Manual or auto? My mom drove a VR4 6M so who cares...however, you will have your front lip scratched or destroyed entirely and you most likely will acquire some door dings.

OP is a classy guy. Have my useless Thanks.

Came out of the Liquor Store to see a red FRS in the parking lot as I get into my car.

Then I see some lady (40ish?) smiling at me while she was walking to her car. I thought she was just being a cougar. She hopped into the FRS and so I gave her a thumbs up on the way out and she had the biggest smile on her face.

everything about this post offends me. OP makes me sad.
my roommate and I both have brz's, we can drive them. unfortunately, we have to deal with people like the OP...

seriously, your mom is better equipped to deal with jerks than you are, we have to deal with them all day every day, even without a car.

Are you a mom?

no, but i am a woman.

How is it offensive if I may ask? OP just questioned if his mom would get stared at if she were to drive his FRS. I think I'd take a second look if I saw a lady drive this car as it's not exactly a common thing to see.

he questioned if she could drive it without hassle, then proceeded to say that he is trying to avoid her getting looks and compliments.

this presupposes that women are somehow less equipped to deal with these than any male driving the car.

while i understand where the sentiment may be coming from, it needs to stop. it is this attitude, conscious or unconscious, that perpetuates sexism today.

I think the insulting part (for me anyway) is less specifically OP and more all the comments about women being shitty drivers/not caring about cars. True of some women, but true of some men too. Neither of my BRZs had curb rash, scraped lips, or door dings. My current one gets driven 50 mi a day and looks showroom new all the time. My boyfriend's Genesis has 3/4 curbed rims and a scrape on the lip. This is just about people not liking stereotypes, like twenty-something guys who aggressively mod their cars but don't want to be called ricers.

One thing I think we all need to sit down and remember is that we don't know the op or his mother. I'm sure he knows her much more than we do and is much more enlightened as to whether this was a fair question or not. I highly doubt his intentions were to raise a gender war on an auto forum or to be sexist towards all women. He was only concerned about his mother and if people would harass her. I could imagine if somebody was going to lend a family member their ford raptor, they would also be concerned about other guys...or girls in big trucks harassing that family member too.

Reading over the op again, it could be misconstrued that he was referencing his mother driving ability, or women's driving ability, but that would only be the case if you were looking to make it mean that. The very next sentence he talked about guys in the car getting looks and so forth.

The biggest issue I saw with this topic is that so many people have taken it in such convoluted directions, that the original all question was lost. Would his mother be harassed while driving his little sports car? That's it

Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk

I think you're making too many assumptions and it seems you already have a predisposition on this issue regarding how men view women driving cars. He could have simply been worried about people challenging her to a race, or complimenting his mom (who want's their Mom hit on?), leading to his use of word "hassled".

But of course that is giving him the benefit of the doubt... which you are not.

Seems like this topic has got out of hand and no one reads what the OP has said.
Mom has got a different car now, end of story.

Now on the off topic discussion that has been started, based on personal experience, my mom and other women that I know of, 100% of them do not know how to park the car, and a park job is very important, so you do not have to replace bumpers and shields all the time. Now I'm not saying all women are like that, but in my experience they are.

Yeah...I think that's EXACTLY what Alita is talking about; that somehow his mom isn't capable of handling herself because she's a woman, implying that women are weak and will drop trou the second a man tells them to...or possibly get into a drag race in this case.

Reading comprehension, homie. It helps sometimes.

Nothing chauvinistic to see here!:laughabove::bellyroll:

3 pages and still no pictures of the mom?

:needpics:

That's what a man on his period told me once... :cheers:

I would NEVER let my mom drive my car by herself. She probably try and street race it. I will never forget the time a few years ago I was going 65 on Skillman (speed limit 45) and this blue Dynasty blew past me like I was going 20. I was like that has to be my mom. I had to go up to 80 to keep up with the car and it was my mom driving. When I got to her house I was like you need to slow down!
Thank God we live in a city that really doesn't enforce traffic laws.

Thanks for proving my point. You out-trolled yourself there.:clap:

All of this is academic, right? You don't actually own an FRS? Is that correct?

This guy, knows what a troll is. :popcorn:

My GF drives my car to work most days and to plenty of other places. She gets way more compliments than I ever do and she says she feels like a badass driving it.

It's great to see women empowered by the 86.

Better be careful before she starts going 2fast2furious:burnrubber:

Gotz to keep dat pimp hand strong and reign in them womenfolk so they don't go buck wild.

Yeah need to watch out. Sooner or later they may forget how to even cook and clean! But then again that is an innate ability they are born with, so we should be OK.

They may even speak of having rights and all that non-sense!

One day I was driving on my orange 6spd m frs down the road. I see there is another one just like mine stopped at a stop light. So I pull right next to it, look in there and its an 80 year old women :confused0068: So yeah, your mom should be fine lol

Lol this whole thread mostly arguementive was entertaining and in end I understood a kid who was studying Zoology shall now be known as Zoolander? :)

Still no pics of mom however so hard to say if she would be harassed and such.

So did you try to give her the d or wut

I'm still trying to figure out why a 20 year old dude needs his mom to move in with him for an entire month to get settled in.

Holy shit you guys. Never could I have foreseen the emergence of a gender war from this post.

I don't question my mom's driving capabilities, and I'm most certainly not claiming superiority over her or being sexist in any way. The last person I'd be sexist to is my mom or any mom for that matter as I expect all guys are the same. I would take an FRS to the body for my mom. I was just wondering if it's inappropriate to let her drive the car cause it's regarded as a sporty/flashy car and I don't want my mom getting looks. Call me defensive if you want, I don't give a damn.

I'm alone and my family has moved out of the country. I'm turning 19 and they still feel the need to help me out once in a while. Given my move and the fact that I have no one, I could use an extra hand. Plus I hadn't seen my mom in over 5 months.

Does that answer your condescending question?

Man, I loved that line the first time I heard it in "The Social Network". So you don't actually own an FRS, but you're worried that if you do get one, and if your mom wants to borrow it, she might draw unwanted attention and inappropriate gestures from the motoring public because the car is such an attention-getter and/or your mom is especially attractive.

Um, it's a Toyota. Don't get me wrong...it's a cool little car and all but unless you're attending college in Amish country and your mom is Kate Upton nobody is going to be paying attention.

Sorry fellas............she already has a Toyota.......

Attachment 87439

better luck next time...........

Now that's a TOILF.

Im glad your mom rented a car, I wouldnt want ANYBODY drive my car let alone borrow it.