Delicious Tuning Manufacturer Spec Testing. What does your tuner do to make sure your tune is reliable, smooth and delicious?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYBeD3drCK8"]Delicious Stage 1 Endurance Dyno Testing - YouTube[/ame]


Just a little behind the scenes on our testing procedures.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

Interesting tune and thread.

172whp on your particular Mustang is actually quite impressive, given that baseline bone stock 86's are putting out 149-153whp on your dyno. And especially given the fact that a $5k JRSC CARB kit is only putting out 207whp on your dyno.

I think everyone that is looking for Dynojet dyno results, should instead look at the calculated crank/flywheel Hp based on the stock baseline numbers. If you did, the result will always give you a much better dyno result to compare different parts and tunes to each other, regardless of which dyno you're using.

Ex:

200bhp / baseline mustang/dynojet/maha = xxx * new same mustang/dynojet/maha result = new flywheelHp.

200bhp / 149MustangHp = 1.34 * the new 172MustangHp = 231bhp

231flywheelHp, based on the stock baseline run, will be the same regardless of which dyno you are using (maha, mustang, dynojet).


The stock baseline run really is the key, and should be the great equalizer ;)


ps:
from what I have read.. 230bhp is pretty much "200whp on Dynojet" ..conclusion...who cares if it's "200whp on Dynojet" lol ....just aim for 230bhp and above ;)

On the 1st graph, considering how low the stock exhaust dyno is (148whp) to the new 182, we can easily see the huge percentage gain improvement. We can't really get precise crank bhp, because it doesn't give us a completely stock baseline (the baseline here, has an fa20 tune already).

On the 2nd graph, even though it is 204whp on a Dynojet, the final crank bhp result is based on the baseline run, gives us 234 crank bhp (very similar calculated crank hp as DT’s Mustang and Maha dyno posts)
200 / 175 = 1.14 * 205 = 234 crank bhp

This Maha dyno too results in the same final crank bhp as the previous JDL 200whp Dynojet and the DT Mustang dynos:

200 / 137 base Maha = 1.46 * 159 DT tuned Maha = 232 crank bhp

Zach...I see that delicious tuning is located in SD, Ca. im located in El Centro Ca. about 1 hour and 30 minutes away.

my question is: can this 200whp be achieved with the tomei setup?
I have the Tomei EL headers, Tomei over pipe, Tomei titanium straight pipe and Tomei 60s exhaust. I also have the K&N intake.

I really want to keep 91 octane and stay N/A. so what do you think?

But the JDM tips are essentially 4 inches :(

AWESOME!! Good work guys!

One thing I'm noticing with these tunes is that people are focusing on just exhaust... if I were to have an Injen short ram intake which says 12hp or something ludicrous like that + the HKS intake duct would I see a figure closer to 205-210whp? I drove an innovate supercharged frs a while ago with ~ that much hp and I thought it was all the hp i would ever need!

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Horsepower sadly does not add up when adding parts it just helps with it all and you might see a bit better hp. But from my experience intakes really dont give power to the car compared to a stock system with a drop in and tuned.

Probably close, but no guarantees. We have achieved mid 170's on N/A cars running ACN91.

I have a question, we are having some tuning problems down in Puerto Rico...

Car Setups, Exhaust (diferents, Tomei, Perrin, ect) Drop in or injen, Downpipe, Headers, Front pipe, ect, ect all the mods that can be done even the intake blocks... tuners here are getting 170whp on mustang Dyno... is that all that we can achieve with all the mods that we can buy currently for NA? We are tune for 93 octanes and still on the 170s in mustang should be 180s on dynojet we need to go and check but no 190s thats what we want... please give us some options!

How hard is a remote tuning with you guys, rent a dyno here for how many hours, ecuteck cable, what else?

Thanks!

Dont get hung up on numbers! The dyno is only a tool to monitor changes. The track will be the right place to make a decent power estimate. Plus Puerto rico is very hot and humid so these ecu's tend to dial it back with hot temperatures.

Correct don't get hung up on numbers. For example, the mustang we tune on reads a Stage 2 at about 170 and the exact same car on a dynojet will read about 200. We see about a 17% difference but as Jester stated look at 1/4 mile times.

Here is our Delicious Stage 2 Tune on E85. Not to slow... 13.58 @ 100.99 mph in hot and humid Texas. I have seen faster forced induction FRS's, but nothing NA....

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCFOM4fuWSM"]13.58 sec. Delicious Tuning and PPE Header N/A FRS Breaks 100mph in the 1/4 mi - YouTube[/ame]

We have seen a big difference in intake temps. The cooler the air you can get into the engine the more power you will make. A change of outside air temp of 10 degrees will equate to about 2-3 horsepower gain.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

What would 0-60 be at this stage? Stock is 6.2 seconds (manual transmission) 0-60, I think? http://www.zeroto60times.com/Scion-0-60-mph-Times.html

Ok, just found this thread... I see power is being made with a tune and header + mid-pipe. But here's my concern... where's the catalytic convertor? Aftermarket? Removed? Or stock?

A concern as not all of us plan on unloading our cars in 4 years. :)

It's in the front pipe. Keep the header catless for the best gains and it's cheaper. It's down 1 cat and the tune keeps a CEL from happening. This is a very efficient setup that doesn't have the smell a catless setup causes.

That's correct. Quality header design and a high flow cat in the front pipe will get you where you need to be to hit these numbers.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Yes yes...catless header for best power, and at least 1 cat (on the FP) to keep stink and also rasp/noise down.

If in Cali..keep stock headers and stock FP in garage for smog time ;)

Good plan!

That's what we do. :) I wouldn't recommend that anyone get rid of their stock emissions equipment. Especially with how expensive it is to replace them!

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Excited to try out this stage 2 tune, I'm such a noob. when i receive my tune and ecutek
whats next? is there a help guide when i receive it? lol

Hey Tony,

Check out our Youtube channel for easy tutorials on downloading EcuTek software and flashing the tune to your vehicle! :)

https://www.youtube.com/user/DeliciousTuning/videos

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning