Lol! That's awesome!

you should get a camaro, that way your username will make sense...

Seriously though, it depends what the roads are like where you live. If I lived in Flyover Country I would probably prefer having a muscle car

The FRS is the better all around daily driver...less running costs, more comfortable interior, and better visibility out of. I can get a set of tires for the FRS for under $300...try that with a Camaro, ain't going to happen.

I had a '98 Camaro V6, which would be the best generation camaro as far as handling is concerned due to its more mid engine layout and much lighter weight than the pig they call a Camaro these days. After I put effort into it, dropping some 200+ lbs, installing a Hurst competition + shifter, and redoing the rear suspension with spherical bearing rear control arms and panhard bar, getting the Hotchkiss anti-rollbar setup and Koni Sport adjustable shocks all the way around, better brake pads, and getting some knockoff Z06 17x9.5 wheels with DOT-R Nitto 555RII track tires it was decent in handling...but still not as good as my '90 Acura Integra track car (~2300lbs with a full tank) which was just as fast in the 1/4 mile and quicker on my local roadcourse with its stock power level motor... Turn in and steady state in the Camaro was great along with excellent braking, but it just did not like changing direction in a quick, precise manner - it's weight was made evident event with a reduction in weight and insanely better than stock suspension setup. I will always go with a lightweight well balanced chassis over a 1000+lb heavier not so well balanced chassis with lots of power. Power means squat if the handling precision is lacking...

I liked the car, but it was a pain to work on and just too dang heavy...

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Awesome troll thread.

Both cool cars, if your going to drag the thing then get a camaro. But if you want something that's easy to toss around with confidence get the fr-s. I was on the same exact boat as you. I went with an frs at the time because I was surprised that Toyota came out with another rear wheel drive sports car, and at the time I had my eyes on a used cobra, MR2, and an ae86 Toyota corrola no joke. And I also had my eyes on the new camaros, mostly because I was raised with them. so I was basically sold when I found out about the fr-s being rwd and light weight. But that was when they first came out. The car was so fun I thought I found the machine built for me... Then came the day when I felt like I needed a little more power, so I experimented on a few intakes, headers, and a full exhaust and tuned the thing. And it felt better. But I'm not really into fast 1/4 mile type of cars like I use to be, I prefer nimble light weight cars with enough speed to get me through the day. But if your into that stuff and like drag racing every weekend then by all means go for the camaro v8. But if your like me then the fr-s

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The FR-S and the Camaro were on my short list in 2012 (wow, has it really been 2 years already?).

As I've said else here, my proud redneck upbringings means I love the Camaro (I'm from NC where the state tree is a telephone pole with a Camaro wrapped around it)

I also love small sports cars....

At the end of the day, I ended up with the FR-S for the following reasons, in no particular order:

• Price. The FR-S I wanted was $25K. The Camaro I wanted was closer to $40K, and really if I was honest was >$50K.
• Economy. The FR-S is a better daily driver if you drive 80 to 100 miles a day on average (which I do)
• Drivability. I can drive the FR-S at 80% all day and never get a ticket. The Camaro, maybe 20% on a good day. With two <25 year old sons on my insurance, I don't need tickets!
• And, if I'm honest, the First86 contest. I'm not sure I would have ended up with the FR-S had I not been in that program. My DD died right after the Long Beach trip. I ended up waiting for the FR-S to replace it. Had it died, and I was not in the program, I would have left the Chevy dealer that day with a Camaro ZL1 they had on the lot.

Chevy didn't do themselves any favors with the way the package options either. For example, I needed height adjustable seats because MomHawk could not see out of either car when the seats were in the "native position". In the Camaro at the time, you could only get height adjustable seats once you moved up two "comfort levels".

I can also tell you that if I was in the market today under the same situation, I would have not bought either. I would have purchased a bottom-end C7 Corvette.

All that said, I do not regret my decision at all.

FRS because it's what I drive. My friend bought a camaro around the same time. American vs import. Muscle vs sporty

Did you make your decision yet

Visited the new Cameros at a car show a few weeks ago. Hated it... maybe my FRS has made my biased, but no thank you.

I work for GM and drive a BRZ. I like the Camaro but its just too damn heavy, running costs with fuel/tires/brakes/consumables are also much higher on the Camaro. I may consider the next gen if they end up dropping at least 300-500lbs off it.

first off $25k will not buy you a new v8 camaro so you would have to look at used, probably without a warranty. Second off, if you are interested at all in driving a manual you will want the frs. I test drove a mustang GT, Camaro SS, and FRS all with a manual in the same day and the FRS is hands down the best driver. the camaro clutch pedal felt like it was out of a dodge neon and had no feedback whatsoever and it was matched to a shifter that felt like it should be in a MAC truck so it was the worst clutch pedal/shifter combo i had ever driven. I am very confident i made the right choice with my FRS, the only other car i was considering was a 370Z nismo but that would have put me back in the $40k range and i didn't want to spend that much.

Camero cuz bumblebee.

My vote is for the "or"

Easy. Z/28

:D

If you want a v8 muscle car, save up a bit and get a Mustang 5.0 GT. Around here, dealers were advertising base model GT's for around $26,xxx.

I still haven't decided.
And when I said new I meant the frs. All the camaros in my price range have around 25-30k miles on them.
I think I'm leaning more towards the frs.
I like to go rip ass around back roads with my buddies and the camaro can't really handle that.
Plus, looking into it the aftermarket parts are way cheaper for this than the camaro.
Ps. Sorry for the horrible spelling in the first post, I made it in the middle of class and was trying to act like I was paying attention.

Well there you have it.... If you like to go 'rip ass' around back roads, I would look no further than the FR-S. I just picked up my 2014 FR-S 6M at the dealer a week ago and needless to say I am overjoyed! I read this forum and compared notes on several vehicles for weeks. My only dilemma was should I go with the MT or the AT. Checkout YouaSince my FR-S is purely for fun, and I hadn't owned a MT in the past 30 years... I opted for the stick, and I am all smiles


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You really just need to take some extended test drives before you buy anything. They are very different cars.

You also have a great forum name for a camaro owner :)

Just kidding..

Sorry for the typo in my last post - meant to state: Check out YouTube videos from TopGear on GT86, Leno's Garage on FR-S, and Randy Pobst test drive of the FR-S. This car is just plain fun!


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I love my BRZ, but if I didn't have a big, brutish V8 car to accompany it (RS6) I might not be as happy with owning it.

Do yourself a justice and look at the BRZ Limited too. It is the twin in a suit that speaks more to you in the car.

Although there's something to be said about a 7:37 and 160mph in the rain at Nürburgring, it would get tiring driving a Z/28 every day. Just for fun:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj1h75vA1Jw#t=178"]Nurburgring Lap Times: 2014 Camaro Z/28 Tops Published Times | Chevrolet - YouTube[/ame]

Fixed that for ya

whattt u r in the wrong forum getta out of here :) IMPORT < TUNER

jking u will have sooooooooo much more FUN in a brz or frs then that merican car.

trust this growing community.

My thoughts exactly... :bonk:

If the Camaro were to lose about 500-700 lbs, I would love it again. But it has massive blind spots, weighs too much, and generally the Mustang GT 5.0 is a better buy currently.

Handling wise, the FR-S beats both cars by a landslide. Fast in a straight line, or fast on twisty roads and tracks, take your pick.

The mustang is fast on the twistys now.

I'd pick an frs/brz over a camaro any day.

Buy a Camaro if you want to pay for an engine. Buy an FR-S if you want to pay for engineering. :cheers:

Agree, the current gen Mustangs (and Camaros) are fast in corners. Like you, I'd still pick a Twin over them though for the way they drive.

I guess I agree with the first statement if you're talking about the SS (or 5.0 GT) -- the V8 engines are a big selling point for those cars. But not sure what your latter statement means. :iono:

I'd say all of these cars have an impressive amount of engineering in them.

only camaro worth buying is the z28

Don't forget about the insurance costs for younger drivers with V8's

Only when the road is smooth. Otherwise, after you hook up with Ms. Mid-Corner Bump, you will have to face the wrath of Mr. Ditch.

Pay more attention in class and maybe one day you will be able to afford any car you want without asking a bunch of randoms on the internet for their opinion on your choices.

Sounds like he wouldn't be able to afford the BRZ Limited or FR-S Monogram.

FTFY

I enjoy my $55 a month on my FR-S with full coverage. My '02 Camaro SS was about 20 more than that for liability only....

Wrong, the ZL-1 and SS Performance Package (1LE) Camaros are good as well IMO.

How terrible...

I was cross shopping a BRZ and a Camaro SS. I chose the BRZ and haven't looked back. The Camaro SS interior was cheap, had no nav and drove like a boat on the road. (2011 2SS)

Test drive them both and see how you feel about both of them, choose from there. Insurance on the Camaro is going to be higher.

I got my bed limited for 27 otd. So you should be able to do it.