700+ BHP...

I've had 2 C6 Z06s, 2nd one in Jetstream Blue--especially beautiful car in that color, IMO... That being said, I do like the C7 even more--although I'm still adjusting to the rear.

2015 Z06 Unveiled today. Actual pictures.

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I like the C7 tail, but that spoiler looks out of place.

That's the Z07 (Track package) spoiler & it's adjustable. Clear in center for visibility. Sometimes real Aero isn't always aesthetic...

Sorry. We can't clear that loan.

Reminds me that while driving from Savannah GA to Akron Oh today I saw a brand new 2014 Stingray DOA on the side of the road between Columbia SC and Charlotte NC. Also my daughter's father in law works for Goodyear's Performance Tire Division in Akron and he told me at the Christmas party a couple weeks ago that they have already blown up 2 engines in the 2014 Stingray during tire testing at the Akron test track.

This car is pure sex!

Seats. Steering feel. Shifter feel. Brake feel (barely).

I made the mistake of taking a Z06 (not a C7 obviously :) ) for a spin after a 911. Never ever drive a C6 vette after a 911 unless your goal is to see how bad the C6 is.

The C7 fixed these issues though, and I'm looking forward to driving one soon.. although not to soon since it might result in a fire sale of my other cars :)

Clearly you don't remember the late 70s and early/mid 80s Corvettes....

money shot!

B@t™

Ok... Money down on one @ MSRP... We'll see how this works out, come late '14/early '15.

Gonna be YELLOW!!! (had both C5 & C6 Z06s in that color).

Lucky man...

Well, I'm no fan of Corvette styling from ~1974-1979, but the 1980-82 cleaned things up a bit. To me, 1968-1972 were the best-looking of that voluptuous/ostentatious era, but in any case none of the C3 Corvettes had all the busy-looking creases and vents of the C7.

Mid-80s means C4, which was a MUCH cleaner design than the C7 is.
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In comparison, the C7 is LITTERED with spurious hard lines and vents all over the place.

I love my ZR-1, but the new Z is pure sex to me...

But, C4 you say???

The best looking C4 of all, the '90 ZR-1, IMO--but then I'm partial (going on my 20th year of ownership w/ this bad boy).

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*shrug* The C5 was such an improvement looks-wise over the C4 IMO. C4 looks dated, C5 looks...nostalgic.

I personally am a late 60s, early 70s C3 fan.

To me, the C6 Z06 finally nailed the looks:

http://www.chevycorvette.com/images/...rvette-z06.jpg

The C7 is too busy looking for me, although much improved as a driver's car from what I hear.

I'm still waiting till the horsepower wars get to the point where the ZR1 comes with a 7.0L + Twin Turbo, lol.

They've said there is no immediate plans for the ZR1. I think the new Z06 has overtaken it. I'd like to see the Grand Sport return between the Z51 and the Z06.

Until Ford comes out with an even faster Cobra (Shelby GT300 this time?) and Dodge releases an even faster Viper.

I just realized I should have specified that I was replying to the comment about Corvette's always being about performance.

Sat in my first set of comp seats in a C7 the other day.. not the best (Fiesta ST Recaros are better IMO) but many worlds better than old Vette seats. The standard C7 seats are just adequate. Still better than older Vettes though.

All of those hard lines and vents probably are there for a reason. Ugly on some colors though.

,True--they don't want to steal the Z06s thunder--since it won''t be out for a year or so to begin with! If they confirmed a ZR1, many would wait & not buy the Z06--marketing 101! lol

They are beta-testing a TT powerplant version in plain site (but NOT open hood!) from my understanding, that will be the ZR1, L88, or whatever, when they need to add another version to bolster more excitement. Although they shut the car off immediately if anyone starts coming around the beta cars.

Probably be a '17 or '18 model year.

I am thinking the C6 Z06 w/ the last of the big-engine (for real this time, unlike the early 70s, when we'd never think we'd see them again) 7 liters, may be an almost certain classic for those of us who are interested in that kind of thing.

30 years from now---they will certainly be sought after by the Vette collector faithful.

In the C7 line I personally think the Z51 LT2 with Comp seats would be my choice. I just don't need (or want) the power of the Z06 although some of the other bits are nice.

The last ZR1 I'd buy would be the one George owns. No interest in the C6 ZR1.

Ferrari has the F12 sitting at 730hp to the rear wheels.

Yeah that's a fair counterpoint, although the F12 weighs 4003 lbs and only makes 730 hp. That would be 5.48 lbs/hp.

The C7 Z06 is expected to be even more potent at ~3300 lbs and 620 hp, or 5.32 lbs/hp.

I think weight distribution comes into play too.

F12: 47/53 weight distribution, 2122 lbs over the rear wheels
Z06: 49/51 weight distribution, 1683 lbs over the rear wheels

So not only does the Z06 have a better power-to-weight ratio, but it has less weight over the rear wheels.

But it is a good point to bring up the F12 because I haven't seen any reviews mentioning an inability to put power to the ground.

I'm not a corvette fan, but they keep stepping up the game exponentially each new model as of late. I would LOVE to own one of these AT or MT if I could afford.

They are great machines. I prefer Japanese tuning and inline six engines with turbos the size of beach balls, but you cannot deny this animal.

Agree with you completely. I think they have seriously thought about the aero on these cars. The z06 aero looks like the c7R. For a road car that's something. Tire technology has also come leaps and bounds with road cars coming with near slicks. To think that the little ford hatchbacks have a .90 + skid with ok tires. Not to mention the LC and other electronics that modulate power.

Vents yea, hard lines probably not. I like cars with vents and soft lines. You could call me practical, heh.

Yeah and to take that to the extreme, Formula 1 cars have a power-to-weight ratio of around 2.00 lbs/hp, and they're able to manage with RWD using lots of aero, sticky/wide tires, and some very advanced TC systems. Also rear-biased weight distribution.

Good points!

Looking back at your previous post, I can't believe that the Z06 is gonna have better power to weight ratio than the F12. Good god :bow:. Are they going to offer it in a manual this time? Sidenote : are you sure its gonna be 3300 lbs?

Supposed to be offered with a 7 spd manual or 8 spd auto.

I've seen reports that the curb weight is supposed to be around 3300 lbs. The C5 and C6 Z06's were ~100 lbs lighter than the base models, so if that continues, the C7 Z06 should be right around 3300-3350 lbs.

I know I am confused about this car. Am I looking at a Corvette or Transformer?

I don't know about that. The C5Z and C6Zs both had motors that weighed within 10 lbs of the base motors. The C7Z has probably another 100lbs of blower, plumbing, and heat exchanger over the nose. Also, heavier wheels and tires. I'd look at the difference between a base C6 (3208) and a ZR1 (3333) to try and figure out where the C7Z is going to come in weight wise.

Ah right of course, good point on the blower adding weight. So if the weight difference between the C6 and ZR1 is +125 lbs, are folks predicting the C7Z will weigh in at 3,444 (c7 stingray) + 125 lbs, or 3569 lbs? That seems pretty high for a Z06 model, although maybe this is the new norm with the blower on the Z now.

At Ferrari there are discussions about AWD for the F12 replacement, if I'm not confusing something, the F12 had AWD prototypes. Again it depends on the engine, it is always easier to put NA power to the ground than FI power. What is unknown is what engine will Ferrari get later, I heard small displacement turbocharged V12 are coming, like 5.7 L.