The people who created the engine did not create the driving manual. The people in the legal department created it.

However, I still recommend a slight break in period.

Well crap, my dealer's telling me he can't get a 14 yet! Told them month's ago to let me know when he can get me firestorm m/t. Somebody's stonewallin' I think... :paddle:

Any bets on the crickets showing up?

:lol:

A few owners have taken delivery and the only change was AHA radio being added to the same head unit. No knee or door pads.

In Canada. In USA it's supposed to have kneepads. I haven't seen any USA deliveries mentioned. There's some dealer literature that says it's supposed to have kneepads in the US, though.

Interesting. Why they would delete the knee pads for Canada only is beyond my comprehension.

There is a 2014 release series at the dealership where I got mine. M/T. 25k or 26k I think is the sticker price. Its sitting on the showroom floor.

Knee pads? How close are yall sitting to the steering wheel. I have my seat all the way back and my knees barely touch anything. And I'm 6' 190lbs.

It's functional, but also a cosmetic piece that finishes the interior quite nicely. IMHO.

I sit based on arm length and my seat back pretty straight up and down and my right knee rests on the center console.

Exactly.

Traditionally when comparing Canada-spec to US-spec vehicles the answer to this question has been "because fuck you, that's why!"

Very true indeed.

Oh... well I don't condemn the addition to the piece. Just not something I personally would need. To each their own though.

I thought all the release series were 2013 models.

They could be. I just assumed since the 2014 Model cars come out around Fall qtr that the release series would be considered at 2014 model. I'm not sure what they consider it, you could be right. I know S/N 1064 is the one they have sitting on their show room floor. :iono:

So busy with my new car I only have time to update my profile saying that I now drive a 2014 FR-S!!!!!! lol
Head unit and knee pads are the only changes I know of so far.

What is the manufacture date you have on your 2014's FR-S?

Where do I find that info?

On the door jamb decal inside the driver side door.

Where are the pics?

We have some 2013 FR-S's that are 2013's and have the updated radio and LED lights up front. And one with the SE Toyota Borla exhaust option.

8/13
No pics yet. Looks the same as a 2013.

10th series FRS is 2013 model. Ask me how I know. :lol:

alright need someone to confirm or deny

looking at the stock pictures on the scion website and now the interior pictures are showing the knee pads, ok cool... but some ebrake pix have the red stitching now but some dont? so the 2014s have it or no?

Mine does not. Mine has black stitching.

Interesting, so I assume the paperwork has the model year as '14?

I'm just surprised they're here already.

interesting, wondering why they are showing pictures of the car with the red stitching... :thumbdown:

I wish it would have been red to match the knee panels. But you hardly notice that it is not matching.

For what it's worth:

I emailed Subaru about breaking in an engine on a long drive home after buying the car. I had asked about an Outback.

The answer was identical to what they gave me when I inquired about a BRZ.

Yes, I only emailed once, but my roommate's Outback (2013) owner's manual states the exact same "break-in" text as my BRZ.

-alex

Huh, you're telling me that Subaru designed engines follow a Subaru designed break in procedure? What a world.

Show me a Honda or Chevy manual with the same break in, that'll probably carry more weight. I know the Acura I broke in didn't specify a max rpm, just no redlining or consistent speeds for 1000 miles. :iono:

Yeah it may be on the conservative side but when I buy something expensive I try to follow the instructions. Feels a bit like opening soda cans by poking holes with screwdrivers and complaining about the sharp edges or complaining about the battery life on a phone out of the box without charging it.

That's not my point... as others have pointed out, it's a legal document. All I am saying is that this is a pretty universal "industry standard" that pretty much every car maker has adopted.

You know what's funny? Go on Google and search "______ break in period", insert your favorite car manufacturer. All the various forum threads are just like the ones on here, with people for/against a break-in period and generally everyone following the same procedures (500-1000 miles of varied RPMs, no redlining, etc etc)

The only way to determine if this works or not, is to separate a large enough sample set of owners who have owned their cars for over 10 years from new, and separate that sample into two groups of people who did a "recommended break-in procedure" and those that did not. And then, analyze the fuel and oil consumption of the cars after 10 years, as well as average maintenance costs of said vehicle.

I really don't think any car maker has this type of data, and until this data is published it's all just my word vs your word on the internet.

-alex

Break in recommendations are all about not being harsh with a cold engine more than anything else.

I think they do, or at least someone does. With some of the claims people make about how beneficial/harmful certain break in procedures are you'd be a fool not to funnel some of your millions of dollars of R&D into running this test, after all it's only a test that doesn't require a huge team of engineers, all it takes is a couple of interns over a summer with a couple engines and some automated loading and drive cycles.

If they did have the data what would they gain by publishing it? They will have spent millions of dollars and just handed the answer to the competitors.

But agree, we're all just small fish on this issue.

My 2014 FR-S, built on 8/13 has red stitching.

Hmm what's up with that?

I go back fora new owners meeting on Thursday. I will enquire about ebrake boot. If it was supposed to be red, I'll be feeling pretty ripped off.

Handbrake boot and handle are just like 13 - no red stitching.


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did u read the post where a 14 owner does indeed have the red stitching?

its not the boot that has it, its the leather brake handle that has it... its shown in some of the renderings if you look at the 14 scion interior pictures on their site... its actually better because if u want the matching boot, its pretty cheap to buy one from subie and easy to replace... but to replace the entire ebrake its pretty expensive

actually break in is about sealing the piston rings evenly (hence no constant RPM) for maximum performance after the break in period.

About 20 of the my14s that I seen do not have the red stitching on the brake handle. Maybe it's a regional thing. You can get the BRZ boot and brake handle with red stitching for less than $200.