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bkblitzed 07-20-2013 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 1083642)
Well thats the difference in dedication then. I practiced every single time i was behind the wheel, still do, though my racing career is pretty much over for now. Practice every single time, the times you arent using proper technique is just a chance youve deprived yourself to improve.

I wouldn't say dedication. Im 100% comfortable with both techniques, and can do both of them. It's just switching it up once in a while. Also i wouldn't say rev matching isn't a proper technique, because you're still doing the motion but with 1 extra step. In a way, its more of a practice to faster your self imo.

Anthony 07-20-2013 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 1083642)
Well thats the difference in dedication then. I practiced every single time i was behind the wheel, still do, though my racing career is pretty much over for now. Practice every single time, the times you arent using proper technique is just a chance youve deprived yourself to improve.

My racing career does not exist outside of Forza 4. Also, I've never owned a fast car, so never have been motivated to learn to heel toe. However, you can bet I'll be learning as soon as the break in period is over on my next car. Up until now though, the rev match method I've been using has been plenty of fun and I'm extremely good at it now that I've had the same car since '06.

Anthony 07-20-2013 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bkblitzed (Post 1083649)
I wouldn't say dedication. Im 100% comfortable with both techniques, and can do both of them. It's just switching it up once in a while. Also i wouldn't say rev matching isn't a proper technique, because you're still doing the motion but with 1 extra step. In a way, its more of a practice to faster your self imo.

It's also easier, and if done properly, saves wear and tear on your clutch compared to just regular non-enthusiast daily driving downshifting. But yes, on a track this would make NO sense.

bkblitzed 07-20-2013 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1083667)
It's also easier, and if done properly, saves wear and tear on your clutch compared to just regular non-enthusiast daily driving downshifting. But yes, on a track this would make NO sense.

yea im a home grown back roads taught driver. Up until a year or two, ive started a lot of autox and a track day. By far ive learned so much more in autox and track days than back roads, even though it gave me a pretty solid foundation.

Anthony 07-20-2013 04:11 AM

I don't necessarily see myself ever doing a track day in an FR-S. If I'm going to pay all that money for a day at the track, I'd rather be on two wheels than four. But if I had an FR-S (loan application currently pending, by the way) I'd definitely hit up some autocross events, where I would for-sure want to heel toe if the track was big enough to shift at all. But I think it would also be worth learning to heel toe just for spirited driving. If I get one, it's going to be my fun car, so it won't see anything but spirited driving.

And I agree with Grishbok that if you just do it all the time when you're driving, you'll get better at it. So if you're super cereal, there is no other option.


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