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There is Tire Rack's Clash of the Titans: Testing Two New Max Performance Summer Heavy Hitters, which compares four Max Performance Summer Tires: Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position(UTQG 280) Continental ExtremeContact DW (UTQG 340) Michelin Pilot Super Sport (UTQG 300) Pirelli P Zero (UTQG 220) Grassroots Motorsports also did a wet and dry test (only the wet portion is online at this time...Splish Spashincluding the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec, Toyo Proxes R1R, Continental ExtremeContact DW, and the Continental ExtremeContact Wet (actual race tire). My personal experience is the Conti ECDW is slower, but damn respectable, compared to Dunlop Start Specs or Hankook RS3 in the dry, but much faster in the wet--I've done back to back to back on a wet race track with the same car, changing tires between sessions. |
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Makes me think of how much the FR-S will cost since it doesn't come with what the Limited has.. |
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Curious, but wasn't it suppose to come with steering wheel mounted audio controls? Or did they decide to leave that out?
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Steering wheel will have no buttons on it
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Not a deal breaker though. My current car doesn't have them either. :D |
Good to see the guys at Vorschlag are on this. I've got an AST suspension on the STi that they rebuilt/tweaked for me, and they are the real deal.
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It sounds like he is sure of the BRZ being 25k and 2k more for the premium which as he stated doesn't sound good to get the premium. I wonder if the FRS base model will be a little cheaper than 25k.
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just the naming alone should indicate that the frs will be cheaper. 1. its a scion and 2. the base brz is referred to as premium, which indicates that there should be something lower in class, ie the frs
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While I agree that the FRS does come in a lower trim level option in comparison with the BRZ; it's not a lower trim level BRZ, it's just the BRZ's sister car. (A very close sister) BRZ does have a base model, it's just not coming out in America, the stripped out track version (very similar to the ft86 that's on steelies and doesn't have lsd or painted bumpers in Japan) is going to be available in the UK and will be the "base" model for the BRZ Edit: I don't really understand all the anger in this thread, if someone wants to leave their car as is instead of "improving" it, then you should let them, you'll totally get better times in your autoX or whatever. If someone wants to throw away every single piece of the car and replace it as soon as they get it... let them, they paid for it, they should be able to do what they want with it. There's no need to get upset or tell people they have to leave the thread just because they want a different thing than you. I know the car isn't out yet but there is going to be more than 1 made. You wont have to share yours with everyone else so it will be ok if you have different plans for the car, you can just buy separate cars and do what you want with them. |
I was hoping they would measure the trunk to cabin height clearance with the seat down. I'm curious if I can fit my kayak in there, it fits in a 2 door civic. Anyone want to venture a guess based on how tires stacked up in the back look?
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Shady dealership. Non-refundable deposits are not allowed...
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Its a Scion, no HID's, no Nav = Less expensive than BRZ |
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One really important thing to me is the cargo area, since I like to haul bicycles with me almost everyday and I prefer to haul them inside the car for various reasons. The trunk pass through measures 40" wide by 13.5" high and is very rectangular. Again with the seat adjusted for me, there is 57.5" of length available from the back of the drivers seat to the rear edge of the trunk. Fitting either a road or mountain bike is looking very promising. Also, I don't think I would have to compromise my driving position in order to place a single wheel/tire horizontally behind the driver's seat, though a two-high stack might force the seat more forward than I'd prefer. |
Realistically those that wanted a "competitive" tire would have had to go out and buy them on their own anyway. The limits will still be pretty high from the factory with these tires, which aren't that bad.
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17X9... They trying to fit 275's on it?? Holy sh-
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9" is the legal limit IIRC. And 265 is the legal limit for tires, which pretty much means Dunlop Z1 SS. |
In STX/STR you are allowed a 9" wheel for 2wd cars.
STX = 265mm tire STR = 255mm tire |
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Thanks for the repost, very helpful! Probably the only way I'll get it in there is to have the passenger seat folded forward, which I've had to do before. Or a roof rack when one comes out to fit it. |
UPDATE: AST Coilovers
Vorschlag has released details on their hands on from a couple weeks back...remember, I am just the messenger :happy0180:
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http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Cars/Sub...8-Sheet1-M.jpg
...and the free and total stroke numbers are?..... If that shaft indeed says 22mm, then free stroke is something like 3 1/2" and total stroke is something like 4 3/4" with the bumpstop compressed. That's less than I'd hope for. With any luck they'll comment. |
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I just want to add to this thread that I had AST 4100s on my 02 WRX. The damper tuning that Vorshlag did to these was incredible. You are still largely at the mercy of higher spring rates (depending on what you get), but the damping could not have been better tuned.
Anyone who wants higher spring rates on this car would do really well to choose AST dampers (blatant plug). :thumbsup: |
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