If this car's over hang ...is anything like the s2000...

I think we'll be okay.

lol this thread made autoblog

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/10/r...-of-the-ft-86/

Oh yeah -- three designs.

Well if one is the ED, the other is G, and the last is Calty, then basically we're all getting bent out of shape over the final design on the front bumper.

It's not gonna look radically different from the other two, and the price and performance specs (what really matters!) are going to be the same.

No worries -- keep the faith, brothers and sisters :D

Also, many of us will probably end up buying lip or body kits, so the final version each one of us actually drives around in is going to be a little different anyway...

Hopefully the great moderator in the sky won't disagree with me making a comparison of this recently released picture of the POSSIBLE FT-86 and a 2001 prius. I own a 2001 prius and noticed that the hood, front marker lights, and front intake almost perfectly match(hood especially). I think this is why I have issues with this design. I am sure this is just a hoax. Crossing fingers and holding out for the ED2 design....:thumbsup:

Lol, Hachiroku needs to change the name of this forum to the Official forum.

OST= True ft86 enthusiast

Hopefully this one is a liftback/hatchback cause that was my only gripe about the ED2 design.

If they are making final revisions to the Calty design in March maybe we'll see that car at the Geneva or New York Auto Shows.:iono:

And this report of increased overhangs along with the Automobile magazine article stating the engine lies in front of the axel like current imprezas to me seems like confirmation that the Subie variant will come with symmetrical AWD. There was no way the subie awd system was going to fit in the ED2 design so a change to the Calty design may have been necessary.

Calty, hmmm....

Pro: designed last Celica, which was liftback only.

Con: designed the last Celica.

Here's the Celica series in comparison, with the last being the Calty design. (This forum really needs a spoiler tag. Sorry for the image overkill.)

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/atta...e-rcelica3.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...-histor-2w.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...s/s320/3rd.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...320/myceli.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...g/s320/5th.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...elica-side.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...elica_gt-s.jpg

Yeah, great Autoblog publicity... that should generate another bunch of hits!!

edit: sorry i misread your post. where is this automobile magazine article that you speak of?

im still for original design...this one looks like a kia concept... http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows...t/photo_01.htm ...fail...as for the pedestrian safety issue...i don't think people should be walking into traffic n e way, just saying...lol

btw these celicas were also designed by CALTY. what a coincidence, they all happen to be my least favorite designs!


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...-histor-2w.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nYL0jCFFnW...g/s320/5th.jpg

Looks like this is a clearer version of the Calty Design found it on Motor Trends site under "Toyota MR2 Revival" Still like the ER Concept but this will still do.
http://image.motortrend.com/f/264274...lustration.jpg

We posted & discussed that here back in December.

It looks like crap compared to the ED2 design.

*slits wrists*








Who cares about pedestrians?
I thought the more points was a good thing :(

This news makes me feel like I've lost a dear friend...

Is Toyota REALLY that stupid?? most of us probably wouldn't doubt it!

maybe, JUST MAYBE, if they actually read the reaction to this around the world this rumor won't happen.

To be perfectly honest, I really like the eye black on the CALTY design that makes it look like a panda. It keeps the spirit of the hachi-roku alive. That said, I really prefer the overall look of the ED2 design. It's sexy.
Putting all of that aside, I have to agree totally with OST. If this thing drives well and looks like shit, I won't be heartbroken. It would really be in Toyota's interest to make this thing look mean.. but this car IS the revival of a legend, and a legend that was NOT built on image. The moment Toyota makes this car about image, they're going to piss off a LOT of people. (By the way, the legend I'm talking about is the AE86, not the celica. I'm not saying the celica's not a legend, but this concept's even named after the hachi-roku.)

I would prefer ED2's design, but if this thing looks like a Prius and drives like a champ, I'll still buy one.

BTW, I can't help feeling like someone is seriously trolling us right now.
And completely winning.

i just went and bought the magazine in question during my lunch break.

sry for the blurry cell phone pics

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24.../IMAGE_233.jpg

at the top in red it says "european design and japanese design both rejected? ft-86 moves toward design finalization"

the pic in the magazine is pretty much identical to the pic from motortrend.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24.../IMAGE_236.jpg

all the info is the same as has already been quoted. the magazine compiled together various tidbits from anonymous insiders to come up with the following conclusions: the US design was chosen over the euro and japan designs. the US design has more curved lines, is "sexier" and has overall become much more "rounded" with a longer front overhang. they claim that the subaru version and toyota version will not be very different at all, the only difference being the badges and option grades.

here's the bad news for subaru and turbo fans:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24.../IMAGE_235.jpg

according to this insert, an AWD version is highly unlikely because the engine IS a front midship engine and using subaru's AWD system would require using the regular impreza platform rather than the ft-86 platform, which is essentially a newly designed platform. they say that a mass produced turbo version would also be very unlikely due to necessary changes to the tranny/dif in order to handle the extra torque. turbo, if available at all, will only be available as an aftermarket option thru G's.

again, i want to remind everyone that Holiday Auto magazine in japan is known to fabricate their stories. they do get their rumors right every once in a while, but these are just rumors and there's no telling how accurate or inaccurate they are. the renderings were done by graphic artists working for the magazine based off of these rumors that were heard from "insider sources."

It's in the March 2010 issue of Automobile magazine on page 20 very first paragraph. Someone actually scanned it and posted it to this thread:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322

I also typed out the important part of the paragraph as it is hard to read in the thread. Just look for my post.Attachment 1468

i like it, it takes time but look at this picture a few times and u get use to the idea, hopefully it will have a turbo engine, thats all i need realy to get me to buy one!

I would suggest reading this thread, just for the engrish a little further down..
:bellyroll:

Okay, guys..
I'm just gonna call BS.
I won't say it's not possible, but I just don't believe it. All evidence points away from it, except empty claims.
This story is a fabrication.

i hope u are correct!

i feel confident in toyota that they will make us happy

I dug these up, as confirmed there will be no Supra made. :) Ironically looking at the body design, it kind of looks like a larger version of the FT-86.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...shu/supra1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...aprototype.jpg

I was given this a while back from a Tony Chui a sales rep in Weitzes Toyota located in the Toronto area. These are 2 pictures of a prototype celica circa 2007
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...prototype2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...prototype1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...ept_01_900.jpg

This above is the Scion TC Fuse Concept, it is near ready to replace the Scion TC coupe.

So I dont know if the FT86 will be called the new celica be the new Scion TC.

I hope it comes out as a special corolla still, like the matrix, when it first came out it. It was called Corolla Matrix. Perhaps they may call it Corolla 86 (Pipe Dream) but hey Toyota has done some weird and wild things they may still call it the new scion TC or the new celica even though they have present prototypes on the board ready to be released.

I think we have a winner!
 

If this red picture of the "final version" is what they originally posted, I think I know how this all got started. This picture was out for some time around the same time the FT-86 "G" was shown. However, it has been listed and taughted by everyone as the "hybrid MR2" not the FT-86. This is a hoax based on someones asumption that the pic below of the "MR2 hybrid" was the final version of the FT-86. To prove this, I found pics of the "MR2 hybrid" that I had saved. It didn't hit me until I saw the red pic tonight. Anyway here are the pics that I believe spawned this ugly rumor:

Selfishly I hope this is not the final version of the FT-86, it looks like a chubby version of he FT-HS. Anyway atleast we tracked down how this started, lets just hope it's all based on fiction...:thumbsup:

He is right I have my copy here too, the magazine that is.:bow:

Win.
Gochisousama deshita.
*bows*

Actually that MR2 I think Hotwheels made a small die cast car out of that design, but calls it something else just cant remember the name.

I think you might be stretching it to think the 7tune render is just related to the early MR2 designs. Hope you're right, but don't pat yourself on the back yet. And whether it is or isn't, if they still produce that, it wouldn't hold a candle to the ED2 design.

Actually... That's sexy.
Toyota, if the FT ended up looking like that... I'll just say, I wouldn't be mad at you.
:thumbsup:

I rather save it for a higher end car, but who knows. :) :burnrubber:

Fair enough. Actually, to be honest... I only really like the profile of it. The faces are... not fantastic. Side-view = drool-worthy. Front and rear-views = unsatisfactory.

True to be fair. I am not some kind of car king or car guru. I just tell it as I see it.

What about that name?

First thing that comes to mind when I see that picture is 2000GT:party0030:

If this is what the 86 comes out to be then count me out....ill just wail and see what nissan does or the BMW M1 is in my sights.

i've been reading rumors about a new turbo RX-7, that would be a fun car to own too. so we just have 2 wait for mazda and subaru 2 show their concepts and see if its worth to wait.

any ways i know i will buy a 2 doors sport car in the next couple of years but it has to have all the right stuff, because im not waisting my money on something that makes me halfway happy! been their done that.