i actually traded in our old family car for my BRZ - a 2001 grand prix GTP (supercharged). it was actually pretty quick off the line for a 4-dr sedan, but handling was nothing to write home about.

OP - if you want to make your car go faster, start saving your $$$, or just accept that this car isn't very quick in straight line acceleration.

You need one of those. Virtually, all other street-legal cars will slower.

The bad thing about a turbo is you have to wait for your boost. Like I said, just get the Vortech Supercharger and you won't be sorry. It's the best investment you can make on your FR-S.

Well he got the jump on you lol. If I wanted to pass this slow ass, I would have already turned off traction control and revved to 4,000 rpm just get the jump at the light and them resume normal speed at 55mph. It's not racing, I just don't like being stuck behind non speed limit reading assholes who drive 10-15 mph under the speed limit in normal safe driving conditions.

wait for boost? i am full boost at 3500rpm...pretty satisfying

Misread his encounter, and yeah... a Grand Prix GTP would absolutely destroy him. Even the Buick Regal GS shared the same body/engine as the Grand Prix I believe.

I always wanted a Buick Regal GS as a sleeper/cruiser car

I'm at full boost 24/7. That's satisfying.

Guys again, I wasn't racing, my job is too important to lose it over racing a douche, he just punched it and I was completely appalled. I bought the car for the looks, cost and economy. Sue me if I want more power, I'm a man. If I wanted to drive around in a nice looking car with no power I'd of gotten a sedan. If you have nothing positive to say, go to another thread.

To those with good recommendations. I appreciate it and will use your advice.

After he beat me he slammed on breaks and turned into his driveway 50 yards further up the road laughing........

And now you know where he lives. You win.

Please explain how you're at full boost 24/7 when all the vortech graphs show linear boost increase throughout the rpm range, and only seeing "full" boost by redline.

Amen. Can you run a low 12 in the quarter? There's someone who can run a high 11. Run a high 11? There's someone else who can run a low 11. Run a low 11... It never ends...;-)

IMO This is what I would do in this order if you want more low in power. Intake is a waste imo unless you are getting a CAI. I would just get a nice drop in filter for the stock box. Get an exhaust after you get your headers.

1: Tune 91/93 or E85 if you have access.
2: Headers(if your state allows it)

These 2 items installed and tuned correctly will transform the car.

I was being sarcastic. :lol:

I don't get it...

(taken from http://www.zeroto60times.com/)

1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT 0-60 mph 7.6
2012 Dodge Grand Caravan R/T 0-60 mph 7.8
2013 Dodge Caravan 0-60 7.2

2013 Scion FR-S (Manual) 0-60 mph 6.2


Honestly I think people put down this car's acceleration times a little much. It does very good for an n/a 4 cylinder. Yea its not a stop light drag queen but if you wanted that you should slap yourself for buying this car.

I like to look at classic muscle cars as a good example of quickness. Yea they're not the fastest by today's standards, but I'm a huge muscle car fan and it shows how much technology has advanced in 40 or so years that a 4 cylinder sports coupe is faster than an old v8 and much better fuel economy & emissions:

(Disclaimer: I'm not saying the twins are better than any of these cars. Its personally one of my dreams to own a classic muscle car, ideally a big block of course ;))

1964 Ford Mustang (V8) 0-60 mph 7.3
1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS 0-60 mph 7.9
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 0-60 mph 7.0

Of course anything with a big block, or any modern v8 will smoke the twins.


I guess the summary for my post is OP: learn to downshift. :burnrubber:

Just don't get discouraged when a mazda 3 or focus st smokes you at a stoplight. This isn't a drag racer!

I think people expect more out of it because of how it looks. It LOOKS like it should be doing 0-60 in 5 seconds. It LOOKS like it should do low 13s in the 1/4 mile. It does mid 6s to 60 and high 14s in the 1/4.

Plus, many FWD econoboxes out-accelerate us as well. Everything from sporty hatches to mid-sized sedans, minivans, and pickups. It's just not very quick in today's world.

All that being said, I still wouldn't trade this for anything else currently on the market. The only things I would buy over this cost significantly more.

I agree mostly.

I'm curious though - what minivan out accellerates this car? I keep hearing that, but have yet to find one? Seriously, just curious - that would make a mean minivan lol.

My point is, in my opinion this car is slow in the sports car world. But its definitely not slow in regards to "normal cars" - 90% of sedans & trucks on the road would lose to this car in a straight line even. At least in my town, not sure about where you guys live ;).

This car is about the handling and road feel, not speed!

Dodge Caravan.

My stock Mazda MPV spanks my FRS in acceleration.. and that's literally it.

I do notice this car feels a bit slow in the lower RPM's (till 3000-3500) but once you push in to 4K to redline, this car pulls very hard.

I have an Eclipse GSX which isn't the fastest car in the world but I've found that if I want to pass someone, it's all about timing and sneaking up on them like a ninja so that they don't get angry and try to cut me off. Plus, I try to utilize the advantages of my car which are the AWD traction (which especially helps in the rain) and the turbo so I make sure I'm in the boost range.

But sometimes, you just need to realize that you are slower. The few times people did try to race me, I immediately just backed off - I am not the type to get into a stupid street race with someone and am perfectly fine with having a slower car than them.

But with that said, I wouldn't mind a little more stock power with these cars (especially in the mid-range). :P

Header and a Tune will fix that perfectly for you :)

Well I'm too afraid to modify anything big with a car under warranty. I don't want them to tell me they won't cover my car because of some mods. So the only thing I have planned is a high flow air filter. LOL :party0030:

I owned two Talon TSi AWDs ('90 and '94) and a '98 GS-T. Loved em to death.... literally, because both the Talons fell to pieces. :P

I miss the days where a $50 pipe and $250 exhaust could net me like 25hp haha.

Keep stock parts. Really with a properly tuned car and a headers, I really don't think you have anything to worry. Plus they can't deny you warranty coverage unless they can prove your aftermarket product was the cause of the failure. If anything get a tune, and drop-in for the air box. Tune(done correctly by a good tuner John, FA20Club, etc...) is 99.99% safe. Also do you have E85? If you do don't walk, run and get a tune.

Don't try to make a car be something it's not. You can do it, it's not impossible, but you can likely get to that goal cheaper, faster, and more enjoyably picking a car that is already much closer to your goal.

This thread bother me on so many levels.

My last ride was a '99 ZX6R. I would decimate the majority of cars on the road stoplight racing. The thing is, it's not fun. Good job, you made it to the next stop light before me, enjoy sitting at that stop light while I catch up to you driving like a granny and getting excellent fuel economy.

You kids have been watching too much Fast and the Furious. My car is treated like a queen on the road and a slut while autoxing. That's what this car was made for, if you wanted a fast straight line car you should just pick up a Camaro/Mustang/etc.

you did race him... or i dont know the meaning of a rolling street race anymore. you shouldve known the car was lacking power before you even bought it. only a fool would buy a sports car with no knowledge about its purpose. i would suggest going with forced induction for the best power for the money. youll hurt your fuel economy but this is what you want right?

fuk a camaro and a mustang, u wanna go fast? get a crotch rocket. thatll have you flying through the highway 0-60 in like 3 seconds.

next time you see him in the mountain canyon you will smoke him

yeah, and 60-0 in .03 seconds when some idiot pulls out from a side road.

I got parts on ebay, low cost. Now I am fast and am #1 on streets.

its simple add more POWERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...en-d36v7vn.jpg

NOS

useless thread

Sent from my slushbox

There is nothing wrong with bolt-ons that help eliminate the TQ dip right? :thumbup:

There's helpers and skeptics in this world. To the helpers with advice, thanks for being tuners and a realist in the fact that its fun to make a car faster.

To the skeptics, stop assuming and find another thread to complain on, I asked for good upgrades not did I get the right or can I have you opinion on life, just upgrades. Thanks to you guys this thread was useless!

oh Really ?
Where or what is your proof? how much will it PULL??? got any facts to show, or share?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15273
Well, that's step one.