don't expect this car to be any faster than an Rx-8, which will do a 1/4 mile in the high 14's with trap speed in the mid 90s if you're lucky.

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Estimated...

This is pretty much what I am expecting

It will be faster than the RX8...

Explain?

tq. oh wait it has less than the rx8...hp, wait same problem. here it is cd is .27. combine that with a boxer engine and youre in lambo territory

RX8 weight: 3111 lb, HP: 212hp. lb/hp = 14.7 , 0-60mph = 6.3 sec

2011 MINI Cooper S 2668 lb, 181 hp = 14.7 lb/hp, 0-60mph = 6.2 sec

2010 GTI 3034lb, 200 hp = 15.2 lb/hp , 0-60mph = 6.9 sec.

FRS weight: 2750 lb ? HP: 200hp. lb/hp = 13.8 , 0-60mph = 5.9 sec sounds reasonable.

This post makes me happy. I was fully ready to buy the car with a 6.9 sec 0-60 but this car just keeps sounding better and better.

But isnt 2750 the gt86 weight. I kept seeing 2596lb for the Fr-s which would put it at 12.98 lb/hp.

...either way :happyanim:

Where? Apart from your dreams ;)
No way is it going to be under 2600lb... the BRZ's official weight was released and it was in the upper 2700s IIRC. Don't know how the FR-S is going to find 200lbs to lose over that.

Push start, silly.

LOLOL! :-)
I knew it! That push start ain't nuttin but trouble.

I hate to burst anyone's bubble. But the FR-S has an almost identical power to weight ratio as the 7th gen Celica GT-S. I haven't done too much research, there are a lot of variables that come in to play, but the Celica is fwd, with 20 less hp but about 200lbs less weight. The FR-S is 200lbs heavier and has 20 more hp... Like I said.. lots of variables, but the Celica had around a 6.5ish 0-60 and ran about a 15 second flat 1/4 mile. I'm expecting the same for the FR-S.

Gearing, gearing, gearing, gearing.

Also didn't the 02ish celica have a terribly low redline to prevent idiots from 4-2ing their gearbox to death?

Mini and GTI aren't good comparisons, they have turbos making tons of boost at low rpm.
I thought RX8 had more like 232hp though? That puts it better than the FRS...

Anyways 1/4 mile reaches higher speeds so FRS could have advantage over Celica with lower drag and more power. They also have similar gearing. My guess is slightly better than Celica in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. So maybe similar to RX8.

I believe so too. FRS could be a tad slower or faster than rx-8 but not a whole second.

Do you change gears at low rpm or high rpm? Turboed cars have no much boost at high rpm.

FIXED!!!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8

Rx8 gear and final drive ratios, also consider that it redlines at 9000, so despite the 4.78:1 rear end, the high redline helps stretch out those shift points. Also included is the BRZ ratios. Beyond all of this you have to take into consideration tire size, frontal area of the car, coefficient of drag, shift time, etc, as well as the optimal shift points based off of the torque curve of the vehicle.

http://www.perfectshifting.com/

Tends to be a decent calculator for this.

So... So it is possible









YAY
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Oh oh, idea! What if you get a video, you know of the test drives, aaaaand time it till they reach 60 orrrrr GT5 anyone? They did get the gear ratios right.

All I know is I run 14.2-14.3 with a 200whp bolt-on/tune RSX-S. Subtract 150lbs, add the RWD launch advantage, adjust for my power advantage, and they should both be about 14.8 stock

Are you also duffman13 on ClubRSX?

I haven't bought my DLC pack yet with the new test track in it. But you can do some drag test and tune, top speed or whatever on the new track. My friend said he ran a 15.1 in the GT86 on the Test track. A 6.603 in 0-60 time. Possibly slightly better IRL on a drag strip since there will be VHT laid down.

yup. I try to be duffman13 everywhere if someone else didn't snag it already

Thought so. I use the name Machina over there. Since I sold the DC5 for an M3 I mostly lurk for good deals in the for sale threads. And especially since we broke off of CSRX and formed autotalkcrew.com.

Are you getting a BRZ/FRS?

Not this year, but I plan on it. I have a personal rule of only 1 car loan at a time, and my wife's car isn't paid off for another 2.5 years. I still have a set of RS-3s on my track wheels to kill anyway that still have like 3/4 of their tread left.

I think I'll be better off waiting anyway, there could be updates, TRD/SPT parts, etc. that all the early adopter guys will have to wait for, and I'll get them right off the bat.

CRSX is basically dead now anyway. I'm hardly ever on it anymore, just mainly Auto Talk and the Auto-X and Track sections. Now it's just car blogs like TTAC and Jalopnik for me. Shit, I remeber I used to kill hours reading and posting on there.

Smart move. The more I read about the car the more convinced I am to pick one up.

I'm thinking it'll be an awesome auto-x car, which is the only kind of racing I do anymore.

Sucks CRSX is dead now. I was the same way - go to the Auto Talk section and hang there all day long. And The Lounge. But after Loza and the rest started really heavily moderating it, things got kind of lame and a bunch of guys left. Autotalkcrew.com formed essentially because we were sick of the moderators there hassling people for no good reason. Oh well, the glory days are over but it was fun while it lasted. Hell of an information database for the RSX though.

I'm really hoping ft86club turns out to be like that for this new car. We'll see where it goes.

CRSX is still a wealth of knowledge, especially the DIY and Problems section, but I definitely hear you. I installed my header, motor mount inserts, and suspension based on the DIYs on the site without any problems, and they've helped me with other bits of maintenance.

It always happens though. I used to have a B5 A4, and the Audiworld B5 forum was awesome while the average value of the car was $10-15k. Once they started to get old enough that people were getting them for under $10k in high numbers, you start to get too many trashy people and punk kids in the forums. Now the only biggest conversations on CRSX are like the hellaflush ones, and that's stupid. On AW it was when everyone wanted to throw 20"s on their A4s that I knew it had gone downhill.

I think they need a central place for the chassis since they'll be so similar rather than breaking them apart into the Suby and Scion forums separately. This place seems good so far.

*Edit* 1 more thing. I'll prbably auto-X the car for a season intially to get a feel for the limits, but HPDEs are my new drug now. I quit autocross last year and only do those now, and it's so much better. If you have the ability to get to one and afford them, I highly reccommend it.

Yes, the numbers I gave were for the 00 & 01 models.

That sounds right. Those are close to the numbers I'm expecting to see IRL.

I remember both you and duffman13 from CRSX but I haven't been there in ages.

That's awesome. What name did you use?

It's not surprising a lot of RSX guys are interested in this car. It's basically a RWD RSX - which is a match made in heaven imo. I don't know if it'll be as easy to mod as the RSX-S was, but let's hope so.

Mmm, I'd love to get a few HPDEs in. I've got a handful of years of seat time in auto-x, and often with a co-driver who's got much more experience, but I'm sure it doesn't even come close to what you'd get out of a paid HPDE. My plan with the M3 was to graduate from auto-x to road courses, but I think I'll just be replacing my car with a different RWD vehicle.

I remember that time. Right around 2008 or so was when the RSX was breaking that 12k price point, and that seemed to be when the ricers/trash/kiddies were grabbing them. Happens to every car I guess.

Moses on CRSX

I'd agree with those numbers, as I was screwing around last night on GT5 and got very similar figures. I also tested the top speed. Got her up to 145.8 mph (not sure about that tenth, lol). Wahoo!:thumbup:

Was SUB-CRSX taken?

No. I started it with the Gencoupe in 08. I'm guessing you was being sarcactic?

*Ba dum tish*

This is a duplicate thread of this 0-60 mph - forget handling ability for 5.9 seconds

I was actually serious since I remember in one of the threads you listed all the forums you were on and all your name started SUB

Yeah, I totally forgot about CRSX since I disliked it so much.

TRD Supercharger
 

I sure hope this option comes to the US !! :party0030:

Be a nice wakeup call for more Power :w00t: