Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 802796)

GReddy makes awesome stuff. I ran their TD06 kit on my car for the better part of 5 years. No issues. The only thing i didn't like was the E-Manage piggyback ECU with it.

If the kit is a full turn key kit with ECU and FMIC, guarantee it will be more than $5,000

Originally Posted by boead (Post 802873)

For quality turn-key that passes emissions and last 150 somewhat thousand miles is worth it. Don't you think?

What's a stock turbo-86 gonna cost from the factory? 8 to 10 grand more than base? Likely bundled with other stuff for $34,200 MT- just sayin.

Im personally looking for quality turn-key! I think many are.

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 802913)

Does anyone know the spec on the turbo?

Originally Posted by Danny50 on Aug/07/09 on Garret

Description: This flow map is my speculation based on horizontally squeezing and vertically stretching a MHI 20G map.
The 16G-large, 18G, and 20G compressor wheels all share the same 2.680" exducer diameter and differ in trim (and perhaps blade design): 50 trim for the 16G-large, 55 trim for the 18G and 60 trim for the 20G. In wheel "families" like this (same exducer size) higher trim usually means more flow and often lower maximum pressure ratio. Sometimes the higher trim wheel may have a bit less maximum efficiency than the lower trim wheel, such as seen in the Garrett T3 series (compare 50-trim and 60-trim wheels). So to make this map I reduced the 20G flow some and increased the maximum PR some. All "G" maps are somewhat similar in appearance so I think this speculative map may be a reasonable guess as to the MHI 18G performance. Coverage of demand lines is not as good as the 14B and 16G-large, but better than with the 20G. However, efficiency is probably better than either of the other 3 wheels. Note: This is the stock turbo for the GReddy turbo kit.

Originally Posted by SpeedHunters

At the $25,255 sticker price that Scion offers the FR-S it is actually cheaper to buy one of these outright and ship it back to Japan than it is to go down to a local Toyota dealer and order an 86, if they even have one in stock.

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 802681)

Hey, maybe you are a guru, maybe you aren't. But implying that you know more than a massive well respected tuner like greddy/trust is a hell of a call to backup.

Originally Posted by Jesse@JDLAutodesign (Post 803131)

I'm implying that i have seen plenty of those type of flex bellows fail. I've been doing this over 10 years and personally built over a thousand manifolds. Not saying i know more than whoever, but i am confident in my work and thats all that matters to me. :)

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r (Post 803104)

Thought this was interesting:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 802904)

I'm not saying it's not worth it. I would definitely buy GReddy products over most others. I was just stating that I'll bet it will be $5,000+ because there are various people saying it should only be $3,000-$4,000 for the full kit.

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 804035)

But, that said; our wages / living conditions / economy I believe are better in Australia/New Zealand.

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 837511)

After spending the afternoon comparing turbos around the 200kw range, I'm convinced the t517z 8cm is an excellent choice for a "Stage 1" (stock fuel system) setup. The t518z 10cm included in this kit, has been chosen so that there is much more headroom in the setup for when the purchaser decides to upgrade fueling.

I've asked Greddy/Trust Japan direct if they have tested a t518z 8cm or t517z 8cm on this setup already, and whether they would consider supplying the kit with one of these turbos as an alternative for those seeking realibility and response more than top end.

Originally Posted by FullTuneZN6 (Post 855388)

+1 Great point...Did they get you an answer?

Originally Posted by Sellout (Post 896583)

CARB legality is probably not going to be possible with ANY turbo kit for this car. CARB regulations don't allow you to change the catalytic convertor unless it's broken. You have to have the factory cat until the car is out of its emissions warranty, at which point you can have an aftermarket one that meets the factory specifications. There is no such thing as a CARB legal high flow cat anymore.

Basically, we're screwed because there's a cat in the exhaust manifold, and screwed again by the second cat in the front pipe. If someone figures out how to bolt a turbo onto the factory exhaust manifold and then plumb the downpipe to the factory front pipe then it's possible. Otherwise, not happening.

Originally Posted by cmss2000 (Post 897037)

Ptuning's turbo can use the stock stock manifold if u want. AP might too.

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 897096)

Nope still doesn't work. Their turbo's use the space originally occupied by the 2nd cat. Ie. it displaces the 2nd cat.

The only way I see a CARB legal turbo kit happening is if it is a true rear mount turbo where it displaces the stock muffler. Thats the only space it can fit into without messing with the cats.

Seems like there is risk (as evidenced by a forum member running the AP kit) of cats disintegrating and destroying turbos that are mounted after them.

Originally Posted by cmss2000 (Post 897572)

The second cat isn't even needed. It's after the last O2 sensor, so removing it doesn't even set off a CEL.
I'm not saying this is going to make it CARB legal, but I passed inspection without it.
I think the tune is going to have an effect also. The Vortech kit is only CARB legal if you use their tune (when it comes out).

Originally Posted by Sellout (Post 897635)

The point is that a kit which requires you to remove, modify, relocate, or even look at the catalytic convertor in a manner that the CARB doesn't like will not include a CARB sticker.

Originally Posted by cmss2000 (Post 897832)

If you don't want to remove, modify or relocate anything, then what are you doing in the Forced Induction threads? Stay NA, nobody's twisting your arm.

Originally Posted by Sonolin (Post 953405)

Actually doesn't look bad at all!

I'm assuming its not carb?