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exS4 05-16-2016 10:43 AM

I get it
 
When I used to have a 2000 MustangGT, it had 2 throttle return springs. I removed one spring and instantly got quicker throttle response! It didn't make it any faster, but it did make it much more responsive and fun to drive.
So I can see the point of this product assuming it works as advertised.

KoolBRZ 05-16-2016 03:18 PM

I think there is something being overlooked here. The ECU's sensitivity to voltage changes is increased by this adapter. As any OFT user can tell, throttle sensitivity drops after loading a tune. I think this is because the signal is below a certain threshold, and the ECU drops that threshold over time as it "learns". I think the "off-idle" transition is at a very low signal strength, and is hard for the ECU to recognize, immediately after a flash. If this adapter sends a more recognizable signal to the ECU, it would eliminate that "off-idle" delay that infuriates every drive-by-wire performance driver.

nikitopo 05-17-2016 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2652581)
I'm confused why are people saying this gives more power and torque, all it does is remap throttle response. I won't believe this scam till someone shows dyno proof it gained power. This isn't a worthwhile mod, its a farce that gives you the assumption of speed, power and a "better torque range" as you described, buy an open-flash tablet and you can actually get some real results.

They provide a dyno map on their site:

http://www.sprintboosterusa.com/

The dyno is not related with our cars, but it gives a proof that it is not just a throttle remap for response.

ryoma 05-17-2016 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2654605)
They provide a dyno map on their site:

http://www.sprintboosterusa.com/

The dyno is not related with our cars, but it gives a proof that it is not just a throttle remap for response.

this is what I don't understand. the thing plugs into the throttle pedal connector. it does not plug into the OBD2 plug to flash a new tune to the ECU. as far as I know, the throttle pedal connector does nothing other than send a voltage signal to the throttle plate and/or ECU. it does NOT read or write anything to the ECU.

with that said, how would this device change anything other than a more "responsive" throttle and add more power? the throttle plate can only open so much... you can't open it 120% for extra power.

Kodename47 05-17-2016 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2654605)
They provide a dyno map on their site:

http://www.sprintboosterusa.com/

The dyno is not related with our cars, but it gives a proof that it is not just a throttle remap for response.

It cannot give any more power. The throttle plate motor opens to its maximum position on the OEM settings. This is confirmed by logging the TPS voltages. All the ECU does is calculate the desired throttle valve from the pedal voltage, which is learnt. By changing the input does not mean that the output can be any larger. At all times on this ECU if you command WOT you get WOT. This isn't an FB20 where the torque and throttle tables are integrated with boost settings etc. It's purely for throttle plate mapping.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-17-2016 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2654605)
They provide a dyno map on their site:

http://www.sprintboosterusa.com/

The dyno is not related with our cars, but it gives a proof that it is not just a throttle remap for response.


Totally a false dyno map, dyno your car with and without it. You're being conned.

nikitopo 06-17-2016 05:02 AM

A nice video that explains the details of sprintbooster. You can see also the delay in the throttle body:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyJtac6d05U"]Sprint Booster on 'Performance TV' - SEMA SHOW 2013 - YouTube[/ame]

themadscientist 06-17-2016 05:31 AM

Throttle control used to be so affordable.

http://il3.picdn.net/shutterstock/vi...67/thumb/1.jpg

nikitopo 06-17-2016 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2683012)
Throttle control used to be so affordable.


You didn't watch the video.

themadscientist 06-17-2016 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2683015)
You didn't watch the video.

You didn't get the point I was making.

nikitopo 06-17-2016 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2683017)
You didn't get the point I was making.



Oh yes, apologies:


Throttle control used to be so affordable.

themadscientist 06-17-2016 07:40 AM

;)

http://www.miata.net/garage/images/throttle.jpg


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