That's alternative key. It's not really thin though, you can put a key behind the card. I'm sure JDM Prius also use the same kind of card for its keyless entry system.

Well I read on Lexus forums that you can buy someone else's card and have the dealer reprogram it for your own Lexus, so it might be possible to do the same for the Toyotas/Scions that are using the same SmartKey technologies.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/mobi...operation.html
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/atta...-is-11ff6p.jpg

Hmm they should give us an option to buy that as an alternative key then. That way you can keep it in your wallet and only use the real key fob for when you need the trunk opened or something.

Oh and on another note, how does toyota keyless entry work? Is it the same as BMW where you have to touch a certain part of the for handle?

How my IS works is, if the car detects my key in its certain range, I can be able to unlock my door by holding the door handles that have small black square buttons, and open the trunk by pressing a button hiding at the trunk. I don't really have to use my key at all, unless I want to make it screams by pressing "panic" on my key fob. LOL

With Toyota/Lexus's SmartKey all you have to do is to touch the door handle to unlock the door, or press a button hidden on the trunk lid to open the trunk. They do still provide a conventional key fob as a backup of course, but with the Smart Card there is no need for a real key fob at all unless you want to lock/unlock your glove box.

Oh cool that means that if we have that smart card we won't be screwed if we forget our keys cause no one would leave home without their wallet.

I'm gonna go see if Scions cars work the same way.

it's not a card, it's a key fob just like the one every car has now, that you put on your keychain. The car detects when it is near and allows you to unlock the doors and start the car without needing to take it out of your pocket. Using a key is going to seem like such a pain after owning this :)

edit... nvm I get it now. Imagine if they could get the same thing for my apartment... I wouldn't need to carry keys around at all anymore :)

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I always try to push Start/Stop button, and hold door handle of my RX300 to start the car and unlock the door, respectively. I never learn. hahaha

I think some Japanese homes actually uses something like this for their locks.

On a side note Japan has also been using NFC one their phones to turn them into wallets. Can you imagine if we can use our phones to unlock our cars like that. Soon we won't even need keys.

Man I really hate keys cause of how they feel in my pants >_> it would be awesome if keys would just all get replaced with our phones or cards.

I hate keys also. I rather use a card or phone. If not, something less annoying than carrying keys.

It seems like the new RS TC had keyless entry and push to start. I have to admit, it is cool to see a Scion with some new tech, even if it's exclusive to only the RS. If anyone is interested heres the video
http://youtu.be/ST3kK-41xQM

The guy did a complete walk around inside and out side of the car(he explains the key fob starting at 1:20), I think the FR-S should have pretty much the same kind of technology.

As much as I'm in to tech, I would still like a key to open my door if my car battery dies, or if it needs to be jump started. I do believe that someday we might use nfc to open our doors, but just like everything else in programming, codes/frequencies can be tampered with.

This. What ever happened to a simple key opening up your door and starting your car.

promoting laziness is the best way to make money, so creating a system where you dont have to reach into your pocket, take out your keys to approximately hip height to unlock your car, makes it "easier(lazier)" therefore makes more money, because DAMN i could strain a bicep using keys to open doors all day!

^ well it's also cause of you know the impending zombie apocalypse. You don't have time to reach in your pocket and find the right key. With keyless entry all you have to do is run like hell to your car and open the door. Technology at it's finest.

Man that fiesta commercial was hilarious. Didn't make me wanna buy a ford but taught me the importance of keyless entry.

yes while that's true if your anywhere near some of the members in this forums they'll have you covered in the case of the zombie apocalypse i believe they have already started planning lol

Lol I live in Canada, I don't think there are too many gun collectors living around me. There are a lot of bears and coyotes maybe we can train them to fight against the zombies.

Sounds like a plan to me!

It was inevitable. Zombies have taken over. Once again. lol

Lol I was watching too much Walking Dead. The show is kinda dumb sometimes. I mean like there are highways with cars just lying around, and not just crappy cars I mean like BMW and Mercedes and they don't take them. Instead they take out the gas for their broken down RV and crappy old wagons. Some times I wonder who's actually the ones with no brain on that show >.>

Here's your answer:

http://www.rav4world.com/forums/memb...-side-side.jpg

is the top one a switchblade key?

Yes, vendors sell them on eBay. They're not OEM.

Jeff

Why is there an empty spot on all the Scion keys... Shouldn't there be a trunk release button there? That would be dumb if it didn't have a trunk release button and it looks like that. :(

Asked before, but never answered IIRC. Apparently you are expected to put your bags down in the slush or rain so you can manually push a release button at the back of the car that you can't even see from a standing position when you are next to it. have fun, especially in the dark. What a truly dumb ass design, designer deserves to be fired. :thumbdown:

So it senses your key next to it like the keyless entry thing? Or I guess you would have to unlock the doors first? Anyway, I would still prefer simply pressing a trunk release button on the key. I will be loading things in the back of it often for my business so that could get annoying.

Hey, just another weight saving measure to shave seconds off getting to those meetings so you CAN have the extra time to enjoy the hassles! :D lol

The FR-S key has 4 buttons, it does have a trunk release button on the key, there is no button on the car that you have to press. That picture is not of an FR-S key, just another similar key.

http://i.imgur.com/QFCDL.jpg

Jeff

Oh good! So there is a button on the key. :w00t:

Its the same key my damn corrolla has, im gonna be getting these mixed up.. I might paint the housing white for +10 HP.

Throw some racing stickers on it and you're bound to get another +30HP!

Hell yeah bro! Carbon fiber housing as well or is that too rice?? I think i could lose 2lbs which would increase my power to weight ratio! I'll be the biggest sleeper ever, porsches will never see me coming!

Just always check the backs for the Scion or Toyota logo. At least that's different.

Didnt even think about this, good call.

Hell, shave/sand that plastic down bra and you got some more weight savings on both the Yoda and the FR! :thumbup:

More proof that there is a key on the button found here.

http://imgur.com/a/9YWqQ#27

That is the actual key for the white one that i sat in and turned on.


Videos over at this thread

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5349

Ahh good catch. As David Hobbs says to Steve Matchett, "You must have eyes like a rat in a sewer!" :lol:

When did theyinform us that keyless entry and push to start was an option? And how much lol? First 86'er:D