I like how their LED DRL stays on even with their headlights on. Is that a JDM software feature? :wub:

http://wot.motortrend.com/subaru-brz-sti-284547.html

No turbo.

Didn't they also say that anyone could upgrade their BRZ to the STi version if they wanted? Something along the lines of "You don't need to wait to buy one, you'll be able to upgrade to STI spec"?

Along those lines, all of what is going on makes sense. Any changes would involve things that don't require a high amount of disassembly. If they did ECU tuning that didn't require engine modification, it'd be fairly easy to get the power bump.

Why is there a penis spray painted on the track?

Are the seats different; look like racing buckets??

I wonder if anyone heard what it sounded like on Bridge to Gantry?

It could also be an potential VLN car for next year, although it looks a bit 'road car' for that.

Love it other than that stupid wing and I think those are 18s and I much prefer 17s. Wings like those are so cool at the track/autox and so dumb on the street. I hope they do a duck style spoiler but then again Subaru STi spoilers don't have a good history for good appearance.

because some of the so-called race funs really suck

Interested.

Why is Hachi always the first to post important news?




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uh... couldn't this just be someone's personal car? It just looks like a normal BRZ with the STI parts that are already on sale and an aftermarket wing. I don't see any datalogging equipment.

Possibly, but Hachi mentioned an unusually large contingent of people w/the car.

Also, notice the secondary GPS antenna mounted in the middle of the roof. Could be hooked to a VBOX or the like and they simply didn't dash mount the VBOX displays...

Cannot tell if the hood and roof is CF painted or stock? Also the Sti fender logo on the concept car is not here.

who knows, maybe an N/A BRZ STi would be what this car needs?

9k redline, maybe a little increase in displacement, this car can be great! although i'm more excited about the 9k redline because of my rx8 :bonk:

although i still want a turbo haha :thumbup:

i think the engine could use some lift profile on the AVCS if any changes are made to the engine.

other than that...looks like a BRZ ts to me as I predicted since...forever?

I really hope there is a BRZ STi in the future (and kept NA). :thumbup:

Those look like Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. Nice choice, STI.

Edit: Comparison example - http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/images/...uper-Sport.jpg

The real question is....did the "sources" time the laps?

Be careful, lots of folks here hate rumors, worse yet possible rumors with possible pictures, which may lead to more rumors.

I've always thought the "tS" (which I believe stands for "Tuned by STI") designation to be kinda redundant when comparing it to STI, but I guess I see the distinction. Always thought the "WRX STI tS" to be kinda funny.

Ah, more fap material for our HDDs ;)

great so it comes with a wing I don't want, body kit I don't want, the wheels are meh and I have to pay for all that. I hope it comes with significant extra power but I have no idea how they are going to make more power out of this engine without FI.

i had a big shhpeel in a thread a long time ago over the name STi

To many people are associate the name STi with the Tuning Shop STi and the Vehicle Trim STi.

STi vehicle trim denotes that its a performance vehicle Direct from subaru.

While the Tuning shop STi has very little dealings with production models from Subaru.

and Tuning Shop STi is only responsible for vehicles like Legacy S406 and the Impreza WRX S206..the only true STi models.

ts denotes that the tuning shop STi has offered a production trim level in which they are responsible.

In Japan there are WRX STi ts models...meaning Tuning Shop STi took a Production model WRX in STi trim, and offered their shops flare..

Looks like the DRLs are on with the headlights... is this a european thing or maybe the new DRLs that the dealer said were going to be recalled...

No. Reasonable people here think unfounded rumors that lack any sort of legitimate source and are based on stupid kids speculating on the internet are worth hating.

Information based on actual sources or some conversation on actual photos of said topic should be more than welcome.

If it makes more power than 200 without F/I then it would probably come with 10-40 more hp and about 3 lb ft of torque with about a 1k higher redline I bet. In other words I probably still wouldn't be impress with the engine in daily driving.

Sweet. I hope there is something nice under the hood. Stock power is good, but not great.

personally, i think the best enhancement a manufacturer can make is to the chassy.

there are so much rigorous testing involved in making a good platform and a good suspension set up that us tuners and even experienced shop owners just dont have the time or resources to do.

I believe that if this is truly a hardcore enthusiasts's car...the Toyota and Subaru will think of ways to improve the cars character (drivetrain & Chassy) rather than outright power output. because honestly the power department is up to tuner.

Id rather see this car be the fastest D-stock class and achieve comfort, reliability, and economy. Then put this car in the slowest of c-stock, aiming to be fast.

Kinda agree. If they did an STi version and only added say 20-30 more NA hp... I could live with that and be very attracted to that car... IF... IF... they also on that same car dropped 200-300 more lbs... Added better brakes... Added better aero... Added better suspension. And it was below ~$32K. Take that budget track car to another level, but still pretty affordable. All while keeping it very different from the WRX/STi power output and market target segment. Yep, I would like that alot.

Don't count on that combo. More weight off is going to start costing a lot in materials.

Just because we don't see any engine changes from the outside doesn't mean they can't happen on whatever they bring out. Aero and suspension tweaks are good to test out on a track like the 'Ring. You don't necessarily need to test an engine on that.

really interested as to how Toyota will respond to the STi...

I think it's just bolt on stuff along with suspension and brake upgrades. With regards to power, I say they probably gave it 10 - 15 HP bump. Overall, the car will still be marginally quicker around most tracks and they can justify a bump of $3k in price. Not something I would have liked to see coming, but makes total sense.

Looks like most of us can just part the pieces ourselves and get something close to what they'll be offering on the showrooms. :thumbup:

Actually... more like this is STI's response to Toyota. Toyota came forward first... twice...

http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/c...557/569/58.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00378639_m.jpg

Also remember that the TRD GT86 doesn't have ANY power upgrades besides maybe the axle-back exhaust and sports air filter. Plus upgraded aero, chassis, suspension, and brakes. With all that (installed on car from the factory), it already costs +$15k USD (or something ridiculous) over the standard GT86. <-- The list of upgrades on THAT car is already the equivalent counterpart to what we see on this factory tuned BRZ. Now when you ask for more power - even if just 30-40hp - LMAO you can kiss 'affordable' goodbye. :brokenheart:

a whole bunch of cars come with factory Side-Mount Intercoolers. They are invisible to from the outside of the car.

its quite possible that if a turbo was in use, they went with SMIC to keep weight down and keep a the CoG low as opposed to a TMIC

Count me in. I was in a long time ago anyways. As soon as I heard the rumor of and STI version.

Now where can I put my deposit and prep my BRZ trade-in? :)

As long as it is lighter and more powerfull than base BRZ as stated by a news report direct from the head BRZ engineer then a big big YES!

Maybe, but I think if they were doing an IC and it wasn't a TMIC, it would be a FMIC. Have you looked under the hood? I think they could pretty easily fit a smallish FMIC - there is quite a bit of space in front of the block. And in that pic, it doesn't appear there is a FMIC.

Yeah, I am wishful thinking at $32K. That's what they would do if they were smart and looked at the competitors to the regular BRZ and other cars like the 370Z. BUT, it is all about money and if they thought they could sell it at $39K or $40K, I'm sure that's what the price would be.

BUT, I think there is more low cost weight to be dropped even out of the factory. Lighter seats (maybe even a rear seat delete for hard core track focused car). Battery. Electric delete (windows & door locks). Stereo delete. CF drive shaft (this starts to get pricey here with materials as you allude to). CF roof. Lighter doors. Etc...

And we all know based on what we are seeing with aftermarket tunes they could probably drop at least 10 lb in exhaust and add 20 hp in tune with barely any changes (better intake/exhaust) without even cracking the block or heads.

But yes, I agree with you that it would be hard for them to get 200 lbs off, add 20 hp, and keep it in the area of $32K. Honestly though, even 100 lbs off, 20 hp, and add better brakes/suspension/aero/tires, that's still pretty potent considering our stock tires suck and with better tires the FRS/BRZ is already a very capable car. The big thing I would hope for is to not get the car up into the $39K or $40+K range. Not buying a car for that much and that's a big part of why I liked the original BRZ ($27K'ish premium) and the original 2004 USDM STi ($32.5K'ish).

Is it just me or is anyone else rather let down by the aero components for the BRZ STI?

NOTE: I am focusing strictly on the aesthetics

The side skirts could definitely be worse.. but I find them relatively bland. I find the trunk lip spoiler extremely boring.. I don't need some gaudy whale tale spoiler but come on..

The only attractive piece (and the only pece I think flows with the car) is the front lip spoiler.

I think it all looks pretty good... It does not look riced out and flows/compliments an already beautiful car.

I'd be surprised if they kept that wing on the production car/bits. I could see that wing being used to just test down force angles for a fixed production wing later... However, I'm just a TN hillbilly so I could be wrong! :thumbsup:

Doubt Turbo

This is Boxer engine, most IC are atop, if it had the side one, it would not fit due to the bumper beam. :thumbsup:

Those side skirts are atrocious.