Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   CANADA (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19)
-   -   Window issues (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20754)

jesseps 11-30-2012 07:59 PM

It seems my window is sticking. Seeing at -10, the window opens when the door opens, but wont go back up, so I have to use the power button for it to go up :/

Enemies 11-30-2012 11:18 PM

Until you fix it using the steps shown here and in other threads multiple times. :P

JSUB 12-13-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wellington (Post 579295)
I have had two new occurrences of windows not going down during the last week and fortunately the glass does not scrape the rubber of the frame of the door. I think that next time I will leave them stuck in that position for the whole winter and not bother with that issue any more.

I would like to point out that every time the window refused to move, it was because of a problem inside the door (probably around the components of the mechanism), never because of glass sticking to rubber. I spent the last five winters with a NC MX-5 and never did the window stick to rubber so I do not expect anything different with the FR-S.

Same here. Windows were stuck (seems inside the door too has I unstuck the bottom rubber carefully with a scrapper) and wouldn't go down or up so no way to reset them (auto flashing lights). Had to wait couple days for milder weather than reset mechanism work well the 1st time :thumbup:

I just hope they don't freeze like that every day...:(

Wellington 12-15-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSUB (Post 607650)
I just hope they don't freeze like that every day...:(

Well, twice a day sometimes... If I am lucky enough to be able to reset the system after my short morning ride, they are often stuck again in the evening. I just wonder how much the motors and guides can endure...

jesseps 12-24-2012 05:18 PM

I removed the fuse for the driver side window and the window still goes down :/

Thing is, the reset doesn't work for me anymore. What sucks is, I am going to the dealer on January 3rd. I hope they can over-ride the electronics.

silvercar 12-26-2012 12:12 PM

My windows always get stuck open
 
This is a horrible feature on a car. I really don't know what they were thinking. Every morning, when I open the door, the window forces itself down, then it gets "frozen" in the open position??? I can't do nothing. I don't know if my window motors are super strong or something, but they force so much it seems like the window will shatter, but going up, they just give out after a split second. I need to literally wait until the car warms up enough to open the window all the way, then reset it. If I just go out for a few minutes, the window will be stuck open a few inches, and the car gets wet inside if it's raining or snowing.

I tried some silicon lube, and also de-icer, does nothing. So frustrating.

chanomatik 12-26-2012 01:25 PM

Mine need to be reset again this morning. I let the car warm up, then went to work. Suddenly got up to speed and heard nothing but wind noise... Looked at the buttons and saw them blinking. This is getting OLD having to reset them all the time. That you have to shut off the car and all that makes it inconvenient to get it done during traffic, so I'm always having to wait until I get to work 20 minutes later.

Last month it did it and I noticed right as I left home, so I said, "F this" and pulled over to reset it real quick. It's an insane feature at this point.

sho220 12-28-2012 12:45 PM

Experienced this for the first time today when I left for work. At 4:30 in the morning in the freezing cold...great way to start the f'ing day...

Rayme 12-28-2012 12:53 PM

Mines been freezing every morning for the last 2 weeks or so. Its getting really old ans you cant always bring it down for a reset since its always dirty and icy to begin with. Id love to be able to cancel that feature...maybe ill just cancel the door switch...

7thgear 12-28-2012 01:14 PM

the original impreza didn't have such a mechanism and there were zero issues during hard rain or cold winters

they really didnt have to bother re-engineering the damn thing

Joe99 12-28-2012 04:32 PM

Is this "feature", electric sealing of the windows - progress?? Was this necessary years ago? There are plenty of older cars with frameless windows.

Rayme 12-29-2012 02:14 PM

I posted a fix :

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25229

wheeladdict 12-30-2012 07:15 PM

Clearly then...
 
the FR-S was designed to be an ~indoor~ car, never to be utilized in any harsh out-of-doors environment. <sarc> I have complied with the designers sentiment and have stored mine indoors after experiencing the ~windows from hell~ only once. Out comes the eminently winter competent FJ Cruiser...

thanks to all who posted the switch reset solution! :thanks:
Now, Scion, snowball's in your court...

WA



Quote:

Originally Posted by Wellington (Post 542140)
The most annoying thing for me was that water and ice came from the inside of the door and not from any part of the outside window frame. My feeling is that in addition to an eventual accumulation of ice between the window and the seals, there is a good chance that water freezes in the area of the mechanism itself, with no obvious possibility to get access to it.


Dispect 12-31-2012 05:34 AM

Thank god for 1 degree winters in Vancouver. No issues yet

jesseps 01-03-2013 02:14 PM

I brought it in today and they replacing the "master switch".

wparsons 01-03-2013 03:09 PM

I doubt the switch will do anything... they need to find a lubricant for the internal mechanism that doesn't freeze.

I've yet to have issues with mine, but it gets parked "indoors" almost all the time. Truly indoors at home, and covered parking at work.

I've had it parked outside for full cold days and no issues though.

abitolder 01-03-2013 03:34 PM

Die-electric grease is a big help, though a bit greasy but transparent, just wipe on rubber areas, weatherstrips etc, water will not freeze to it. Works on your door latch as well

bruce 01-17-2013 11:32 AM

thankyou oilers99
 
that issue was not specifically addressed in the manual, the dealer doesnt know ANYTHING so i thank you so much for this . it solved the mystery! i never understood the good of blogs till now. i sent your post to the dealer. go oilers go!

chenshuo 01-17-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abitolder (Post 642208)
Die-electric grease is a big help, though a bit greasy but transparent, just wipe on rubber areas, weatherstrips etc, water will not freeze to it. Works on your door latch as well

I think oil will degrade rubber in the long term.

Rayme 01-17-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abitolder (Post 642208)
Die-electric grease is a big help, though a bit greasy but transparent, just wipe on rubber areas, weatherstrips etc, water will not freeze to it. Works on your door latch as well

The issue is the windows freezing in the door, NOT against the weather striping/body.

Putting greese along the window frame in the door will just make it a messy mess every time you roll it down and real hard to get rid off.

Skurj 01-17-2013 12:55 PM

Hmm.. glad I am not picking the car up until after the winter! Hopefully by next winter they will have some sort of a fix. Fortunately I park indoors at night, but not at work...

Chinadian 01-20-2013 01:07 PM

My windows freeze up once in a while in Toronto, so I have to do the Reset and it works again. one time I had to reset just the passenger side.

JSUB 02-13-2013 10:14 PM

Passenger side window is stuck now and no "auto" flashing light. In fact, the passenger window buttons lights (on both doors) aren't illuminate anymore.
Window still moving up/down slightly when I open the door but that's it.
Does this mean the fuse is blown or else?

chanomatik 02-14-2013 12:31 PM

Yeah, definitely not a problem that the manual can help you with. That's a warranty solution for sure.

JSUB 02-14-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chanomatik (Post 734647)
Yeah, definitely not a problem that the manual can help you with. That's a warranty solution for sure.

Had no free time lately but will try first to check fuse box this week-end to see if that's the problem...

wparsons 02-15-2013 11:37 AM

If the lights are out, it sounds like the fuse popped.

JSUB 02-17-2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 736676)
If the lights are out, it sounds like the fuse popped.

Seems not. Checked both sides fuses in the engine bay fuse box and they're ok.

I'm puzzled.

When opening the passenger side door, the window drops an inch like suppose to but window switch ain't working still and the "auto" light isn't illuminated (that on both side switch). Why window moving when opening the door and not with both switch??? :mad0259:

Embarrassing...the problem was the "cancel" switch for passenger side window that was triggered (on drivers door next to the door lock switch).
Gee never tought of it (on a two door car) and didn't notice it was activated...
Learned something today!

wparsons 02-21-2013 12:48 PM

Haha, oops!

I had my window freeze up for the first time last night, the car had been sitting for a few days outside and with the swinging temps it froze up nicely.

Some observations...

1) The window wasn't stuck to the top seal at all on either door, opened very easily.
2) The window WAS frozen to the bottom seal. When trying to raise or lower the window I could see the seal moving with the window (on both doors). I slid a plastic card between the window and the seal to free them from each other and everything was peachy. After freeing things up and re-setting the switch everything worked as usual.
3) Another car parked for the same amount of time right beside mine did not have the windows frozen to the bottom seals, so maybe it's something in the seals along the top edge of the door causing the issue?

No issues with the car this morning, everything was back to normal even with the -10 temps.

techsmitty 02-26-2013 06:17 PM

My car has developed a window issue. The passenger side window will not return to the fully up position when the door is closed. The window will roll down correctly on door open and the passenger side door switch works. What doesn't work is the driver side switch for the passenger window. The replacement for the "master switch" is on order through Subaru Canada but it has no ETA yet. Anybody else waiting on parts?

SupraRon 02-26-2013 10:43 PM

This has happened to me, but only after I wash the car. I park my car in the garage so was quite surprised the windows froze. Since then I lower the windows about an inch overnight after a wash. Haven't had the problem since.

MattM232 03-09-2013 10:23 PM

I've had several issues with my windows as well. The drivers side window often does not go back up after the door is closed (after the automatic drop), and I continuously lose control of the passenger window from the drivers' side controls.

The issues stop after I do the reset with the switches, but keep coming back after about a week.

Muskokan 10-25-2013 06:27 AM

I to would like to join the shitty window club.
not the coldest day yet, but had frozen condensation on my window and it mucked it up...


how many engineers does it take to design a window?

chanomatik 10-25-2013 02:26 PM

Just last night I got a buddy that's new to the BRZ game text me about his window, so I said, "Can I call you?" Then I proceeded to explain the process to him. I let him know he's going to get good at doing it quickly.

The only time it wouldn't happen to me is if I washed the car and brought it directly to my job's warehouse to completely dry out.

Rossman 10-30-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techsmitty (Post 759037)
My car has developed a window issue. The passenger side window will not return to the fully up position when the door is closed. The window will roll down correctly on door open and the passenger side door switch works. What doesn't work is the driver side switch for the passenger window. The replacement for the "master switch" is on order through Subaru Canada but it has no ETA yet. Anybody else waiting on parts?


Uh, dude, you don't need any parts to fix this, you just put the window all the way down, and keep pressing down for 3-5 seconds after the window is completely down, then put it back up and keep holding up for 3-5 seconds, if that's whats going on.

adan 02-24-2014 06:35 PM

God dammit. I actually went to the dealership to have the window issue fixed only to find out now that I could have just reset it myself. FML. The mechanic told me it's not under warranty so I have to pay for an hour's work which comes out to $100. How the hell did it take him 1 hour to reset the window? GTFO here. This is bull. I looked up this issue in this forum about a month ago but I couldn't find this thread. I should have looked harder. Dammit. Expensive lesson for me.

chenshuo 02-24-2014 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adan (Post 1553971)
God dammit. I actually went to the dealership to have the window issue fixed only to find out now that I could have just reset it myself. FML. The mechanic told me it's not under warranty so I have to pay for an hour's work which comes out to $100. How the hell did it take him 1 hour to reset the window? GTFO here. This is bull. I looked up this issue in this forum about a month ago but I couldn't find this thread. I should have looked harder. Dammit. Expensive lesson for me.

Mechanic charged you $100, pocketed the money himself, filed paper to Subaru to cover under warranty, reset the window in 5 seconds, went out to buy cigarettes, had a one hour smoke break, hand over the car to you. Mechanic win.

Kfresh23 02-25-2014 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adan (Post 1553971)
God dammit. I actually went to the dealership to have the window issue fixed only to find out now that I could have just reset it myself. FML. The mechanic told me it's not under warranty so I have to pay for an hour's work which comes out to $100. How the hell did it take him 1 hour to reset the window? GTFO here. This is bull. I looked up this issue in this forum about a month ago but I couldn't find this thread. I should have looked harder. Dammit. Expensive lesson for me.

That sucks! Note to everyone (including myself) ALWAYS CHECK THE OWNERS MANUAL It explains how to deal with SOME issues, including the window reset.

FLYFISHR 02-25-2014 01:01 PM

I know this doesn't solve the problem but what I have done as an ounce of prevention, is if there is a chance of it freezing when I wash the car is to have a roll of clear hockey tape that I use to cover the felt strip to stop it from getting soaking wet. After I have rinsed it down I just pull the tape off the window glass and throw it a way. What I missed with the wash is easily cleaned up with a damp miro towel.

krayzie 02-25-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adan (Post 1553971)
God dammit. I actually went to the dealership to have the window issue fixed only to find out now that I could have just reset it myself. FML. The mechanic told me it's not under warranty so I have to pay for an hour's work which comes out to $100. How the hell did it take him 1 hour to reset the window? GTFO here. This is bull. I looked up this issue in this forum about a month ago but I couldn't find this thread. I should have looked harder. Dammit. Expensive lesson for me.

Bumper to bumper warranty should have covered it. You can call Subaru Canada to file a compliant and get your $100 bucks back like I did when the Willowdale Subaru failed to give me proper user manuals for the car, and I spent $102 bucks on eBay to get them (Subaru Canada actually gave me only $94 bucks back I'm not sure why they have to short change me $7 bucks but whatever).

adan 03-07-2014 10:56 AM

Yeah, so I got pretty lucky in the end cuz I found the TSB and brought it to the mechanic's attention the next day (my car had to stay overnight since it was the end of the day). What annoys me though is that when I mentioned it to him, it sounded like he already knew about it yet initially wanted to screw me over and charge me the $100. What garbage. Whatever, no more window issues at least.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:03 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.