F*** driving sports cars, I'm going full manual homies...http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/public/sty...ult/woohoo.gif

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TRUE MANUAL ******!

I guess the OP forgot car companies are in business to make money... the car also comes with auto or we don't get it at all.

A MEME is born!

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Guff, I just find it funny that your sig has a supra on a dyno... :lol:

For the same reason corvettes come in automatic....

That said I'm fine with sports cars selling with automatic transmissions as long as the manual version sells plenty and has a transmission that can be found in several other cars. As soon as this car reaches 20 years old or so the autos will be ripped out for manuals. Unless the next generation of enthusiasts decide to replace them with DCT or sequential or something else.

That one has a 80mm turbo, thank you very much!!! :bellyroll:

All hail the Auto Sports Car!

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"Supra" and "no good" do not belong in the same sentence.

this article is stupid
every major sports car this year has an auto option and almost all of them provide a faster car with better fuel economy than the standard option.


if I had a GTR or a 911 turbo, there is no way in hell I could be pulling off shifts that were good enough to get sub 3 second and sub 4 second 0-60 respectively. auto's have their place in modern cars

1, this isnt a sports car. Its a cute little car that doesnt really excel at anything.

2, Real sports cars are putting paddles/DCT or other variants in their cars that actually shift faster than a true manual. So increasing performance.... I thought thats what a sports car was all about.

throw lettuce at him

The 86's auto shifts faster than a true manual, so you fail at trolling as well! try again soon.

Lol I know one sentence where those work.

Supras are no good on MPG's lol

Too many amateur trolls on here...

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I like the way he tries and change the focus from him to someone else.

Well, I was referring to myself in that post... Except for the fact that I'm a PROFESSIONAL TROLL.

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I think you fail at reading.....

I said the new autos shift faster.

DCT = auto in luxury sports cars but you wouldnt know that since you drive a Scion..... its not an 86 buddy.

poser lmao.

you sir have obviously never been in a GTR or Vette with a pro going 10/10ths. both cars are absolutely viscous and unforgiving at the limit and to generalize experience based on the fact that it's an auto trans is just stupid. there really isn't that much more experience required to drive a manual either for the average joe. for high performance driving the gear change is at the bottom of the skill requirement because there are so many other things going on that deserve more focus. whether you step on a clutch or flick a paddle is not what's important.

Sports car and super car are two different segments and not interchangeable. Fr-s, 370z=sports car.
458, mp4 c12=super car.

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That's what probably drove Toyota to remake the Money for Nothing song, "I want my MPG!" :D

This old topic again? :sigh:

Are you seriously suggesting that Honda never sold out? The CRZ is a hybrid. Point, set, match.

The reality here is that AUTO's are getting better and better. Most performance auto transmissions are faster than human capabilities and will redline the same as well. Manual transmission is more about the heritage of driving I suppose.

The GTR only comes in Auto. End of discussion.

Damn OP, so brave...

Can't be helped. Think this forum needs a no dumbass policy.

Well at least the guy telling us about sports cars has a Camry in his avatar. Adds credibility. :bellyroll:

I personally was very surprised at the responsiveness of the Automatic when I had the chance to drive one.

If you notice, most manufacturers of high performance cars, Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, hell even Lexus now with the LFA, have moved over from the traditional manual gearbox, because the car has proven to be faster with the transmissions, allowing the drivers to have a better experience when pushing the cars.

For this car, I wouldn't buy the Automatic, but that doesn't mean I don't think it should be offered. Like most people are saying, everyone should have the right to a choice. The automatic in this car has been highly praised with keeping the driving experience fun. With the rev-matching downshifts and very responsive paddles, I believe the automatic of this vehicle deserves praise. Don't compare your Camry's automatic to the FR-S automatic.

86 is a reference to ALL brands of the 86, not exclusively the gt-86.

Funny, last I checked all of the internals were the same across all 3 brands. I don't know how changing a brand name will change actual parts and performance of a vehicle.

Wait! you mean to tell me, if I slapped the words LFA on a camary I would now have the performance of a LFA for 24k?!?!

EUREKA GUYS WE ARE ON TO SOMETHING!

Yes, I know what a Dual Clutch is. Your argument is flawed because the SCION has paddle shifters, and can switch faster than a manual.

Funny, last time I checked, it took longer to get from 0-60 with the AT than with a manual.

C'mon guys he's just pushing your buttons. Using the old 0-60 argument? Give me a break.

The AT switches gears faster, the MT is faster to 60. big difference. You have to take into account gearing.

Man if this were lambopower he'd be banned 2 pages ago lol can we do that now plz?

Oh, I know he's a troll. Go back to page 2. I'm just bored and am shooting down his flawed arguments due to incorrect representation of quotes. it's like the RNC/DNC up in here all over again!

Oh, look. More elitism about "How dare they offer an automatic?! Only those who can drive manual are entitled to drive a sports car!"
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I'm sorry your still 104 weeks out on getting your FR-S, I'm sorry that you own a Camry, you should really come prepared with valid proof and validation from professionals prior to starting a thread like this. As far as I can see this is just another Troll Alert. AT vs. MT is not a sell out, it is a way to bring a viable product to consumers that would not consider a platform due to viability, preference or ergonomic usability.
Go eat your boogers and be on your way.
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Real sports cars don't have gears already in place to automate the process. You have to hand-cut each one and throw it into the transmission while you're going down the road.

The problem is that the autos aren't bringing them sales - or at least the auto/manual mix is off from where toyota thought it would be. It's not difficult to find an un-purchased automatic FR-S/BRZ (assuming you're not a lazy ass not willing to drive further than 10 miles to find one) while it is very difficult to get your hands on a manual.

Also, a lot of the cars mentioned so far are not sports cars. Hell, in a purist view neither is the FR-S with its fixed roof and rear seats. Muscle cars and supercars are certainly performance cars, but they don't fit into the sports car subset (although there has certainly been a renewed emphasis on handling in the new round of pony/muscle cars, their weight works against them delivering the immediate feel that should define a sports car).

-Justin

Remember back when RACECARS only had 1 gear! What's with this modern... multiple gear stuff!

I'm not saying the automatic doesn't have some advantages or shouldn't be made.

It just irritates me when people claim the automatic in this car has performance benefits and then back up their claim by listing cars with automated manual transmissions with either single or dual dry clutches.

The fr–s has a torque converter standard automatic. Provide me an example of a sportscar/supercar with a traditional automatic that is faster than it's manual counterpart or is competitive with modern cars on a road course in its class.
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