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xclusive_brett 08-28-2012 12:30 AM

mine will be here tomorrow, hopefully I will have time to install them

Zach 08-30-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fussy08X (Post 406621)

How long did you have the car stock before adding these springs in? judging from your review theres been no detriment to the handling? all positive aye

About 5k miles, under 3 months.

No detriment, a improvement all around. I do want to get a alignment but waiting to make sure everything holds up.

garf 09-23-2012 07:04 AM

Any updates to report?

boonFRS 09-26-2012 06:53 PM

Just got these install about a few hours ago. So far the ride seem a bit stiffer than stock. Suprisingly it's not bouncy. I hit up a few corners in a empty lot behind my workplace and the car feels very grounded. Also install both front and rear cusco strut. I will be taking the car out to the track this Friday so I'll report by then.

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86_ZN6 10-21-2012 02:00 AM

hey do you have close up pics of the new bumpstops?

werid question, but we just want to see how it compares to the stock ones.

we ordered sportlines and apparently it didn't come with new bumpstops

DarrenDriven 10-21-2012 01:01 PM

I didn't get close up photos... sorry man!

You might contact Eibach directly about the missing bump stops.

AlexT 11-06-2012 12:54 PM

Does the car really drop 1 1/4 inch? Can it be less if i remove excess weight in the car?

ModBargains.com 11-06-2012 01:00 PM

Great write up!

DarrenDriven 11-06-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexT (Post 541780)
Does the car really drop 1 1/4 inch? Can it be less if i remove excess weight in the car?

Ummm... I put the actual drop information right in the first post and yes, it was accurate. (I didn't lie, if that is what you are actually asking)

Removing weight from the car might slightly affect the drop, but you would have to lose a LOT of weight from the front of the car to affect that measurement and I don't know where you would find the parts to remove. Maybe the engine?

I would suggest going with different springs if you don't want a 1 1/4" front drop.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 390190)
Distance from center of front wheel to fender - FRONT
Stock springs: 14 7/16"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 1/4" drop)

Distance from center of front wheel to fender - REAR
Stock springs: 14 5/8"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 5/16" drop)


gabeg86 11-06-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexT (Post 541780)
Does the car really drop 1 1/4 inch? Can it be less if i remove excess weight in the car?

if that drop bothers you, why don't you just get the pro-kit instead of the sportlines....?? or any other lowering spring lol the sportlines are one of the lowest

AlexT 11-06-2012 04:15 PM

Dont get me wrong, i love/want that drop. Its just that i measured the dip in the drive way and it looks like im right at the 1 1/4 drop if not on it. I just wanted to know if the info on springs was dead on so i could do a make shift platform on the dip while waiting for my springs.

cto424 11-17-2012 11:51 PM

any other users out there with the sportlines? if so, are you getting the same drop, or more or less?

TouchMyHonda 03-24-2013 09:33 PM

So how's the ride quality now after several months?

boonFRS 03-24-2013 10:36 PM

IMO, it still feel the same. Had it since October and 2 track days. Some bumps does feel a lot harder now then it did before but the ride isn't bouncy.

ericmpena 08-24-2013 07:04 AM

I just received my Sportlines yesterday. I found a place that will install them but here's what they're telling me:

I will need a camber kit. I should not install any spring without a camber kit. If this is true, what do you all recommend? I'm really trying not to spend too much money. It's already $200 for the spacers and $240 for the Sportline. I'm sure it'll be another $250ish for install. That's a $700 project already. Do I need both front and rear cambers?

Also, the auto shop is telling me that I need to get the allignment the day that I get the springs put on, and that costs $90. Is that BS? I've read everywhere that you're supposed to wait about 2-4 weeks before your first allignment. This mechanic was swearing otherwise.

Personally I'd like to just be able to have the Sportline installed and be done with it. If there's going to be much more to this project then I might just sell the springs and not stress myself with it. I don't want my tires needing to be replaced every 3 months or having my tired rotated every 400 miles. That's just too much crap to worry about instead of me just being able to enjoy my ride.

Bottom line, what exactly do I need in order to not mess up my car with these springs?

BlueDubbinTDI 08-24-2013 07:46 AM

Looks like a drop and wheels will have to come very close together because the stockers look tiny when this car is lowered. This is definitely minimum drop for myself, looks a million times better than stock

boredom.is.me 08-24-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1163623)
I just received my Sportlines yesterday. I found a place that will install them but here's what they're telling me:

I will need a camber kit. I should not install any spring without a camber kit. If this is true, what do you all recommend? I'm really trying not to spend too much money. It's already $200 for the spacers and $240 for the Sportline. I'm sure it'll be another $250ish for install. That's a $700 project already. Do I need both front and rear cambers?

Also, the auto shop is telling me that I need to get the allignment the day that I get the springs put on, and that costs $90. Is that BS? I've read everywhere that you're supposed to wait about 2-4 weeks before your first allignment. This mechanic was swearing otherwise.

Personally I'd like to just be able to have the Sportline installed and be done with it. If there's going to be much more to this project then I might just sell the springs and not stress myself with it. I don't want my tires needing to be replaced every 3 months or having my tired rotated every 400 miles. That's just too much crap to worry about instead of me just being able to enjoy my ride.

Bottom line, what exactly do I need in order to not mess up my car with these springs?

Do them yourself. It takes less than two hours and all you needs is two jack stands, a jack, and wheel chocks.

I ordered front camber bolts and control arms. I may not even install them.

DarrenDriven 08-25-2013 08:49 PM

DIY: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10842

ericmpena 08-26-2013 10:38 AM

I understand I can do it myself, but that still does not answer my questions. So my basic questions are:

1. Will I run into any issues if I do not install front and rear cambers?

2. If cambers are needed, which do you recommend for me to purchase?

3. How long do I wait before getting my wheels alligned?

DarrenDriven 08-26-2013 11:51 AM

1. The only issue will be increased tire wear on the inside of your tires over a longish period of time. I have often lowered my cars and not corrected camber, although it forces tire replacement about 25% sooner than you otherwise would need it.

2. Can't help with this one... anyone?

3. I would wait at least 24 hours before getting an alignment as the lowering springs may settle slightly once they have been installed.

ericmpena 09-17-2013 02:13 AM

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I finally got my Sportlines installed today. I don't have a full car picture because it's already dark outside, but here's some close-ups of the wheels before and after. I'm very satisfied with the look!

ck-GT86 09-17-2013 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1216689)
I finally got my Sportlines installed today. I don't have a full car picture because it's already dark outside, but here's some close-ups of the wheels before and after. I'm very satisfied with the look!

Can't wait to get mine!

ericmpena 09-17-2013 06:21 AM

When I saw my car finally finished with the springs on, I could not stop smiling! The drop looks so perfect to me. It's exactly what I was looking for. I'll post some more pics when the sun comes up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ck-GT86 (Post 1216700)
Can't wait to get mine!


ericmpena 09-17-2013 09:34 AM

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Here's a full car pic with the Sportlines. The new wheel gap is a little hard to see so I included half car pics that show the new gap clearer.

ericmpena 10-22-2013 06:13 PM

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I just noticed the the rear passenger side of my car sits a lot lower than the driver side. I can easily place 2 fingers between the tire and frame on the driver side, however on the passenger side I can barely fit 1 finger.

I've always thought that the rear looked a little saggy from the passenger side, but after looking closer I'm seeing a big difference of almost half an inch. Any suggestions? I've had the Sportlines installed since Sept.17th. Here's some pics.

The pics are in this order:
1. Driver side close (Picture taken with camera sitting on the street)
2. Passenger side close (Picture taken with camera sitting on the street)
3. Driver side far
4. Passenger side far


Update: I read some people saying on various forums that this could be due to a the gas tank being full. I'm not sure about that as I only have half a tank, but maybe I'll check it when I'm closer to empty and see if there's any difference.

Shad0ez 10-28-2013 11:29 PM

Any luck with finding out the reason behind the uneven look?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1286657)
I just noticed the the rear passenger side of my car sits a lot lower than the driver side. I can easily place 2 fingers between the tire and frame on the driver side, however on the passenger side I can barely fit 1 finger.

I've always thought that the rear looked a little saggy from the passenger side, but after looking closer I'm seeing a big difference of almost half an inch. Any suggestions? I've had the Sportlines installed since Sept.17th. Here's some pics.

The pics are in this order:
1. Driver side close (Picture taken with camera sitting on the street)
2. Passenger side close (Picture taken with camera sitting on the street)
3. Driver side far
4. Passenger side far


Update: I read some people saying on various forums that this could be due to a the gas tank being full. I'm not sure about that as I only have half a tank, but maybe I'll check it when I'm closer to empty and see if there's any difference.


ericmpena 10-28-2013 11:49 PM

Yes I did.

Prior to taking the pictures I had just installed wheel spacers on my rear wheels. I did the passenger side first, then the driver side.

After finishing up with the rear driver side wheel I lowered the car off of the jack and then was checking out the finished job. That's when I noticed that the passenger rear was a lot lower than the driver rear. I started freaking out!

I didn't hit me until I went back outside later in the day and saw that both sides were sitting even.

Raising up the car to install the wheel spacers took the stress off of the Sportlines, so when I took the car off of the jack it took a few minutes for the Springs to settle back into their normal drop.

Since I did the passenger side first, it had 10 minutes or so while I was working on the driver side to settle back down to it's regular drop.

So in conclusion, it wasn't that the passenger side was sitting low, it was the driver side that was sitting very high. It eventually settled back into the regular drop and now all is well! I meant to post a follow up but I've gotten busy with other mods. Thanks for reminding me!

Shad0ez 10-29-2013 12:02 AM

Not a problem, I'm exploring as many different options as possible before deciding on what I will be doing and would like to know the pro's and con's of each set up.

So wheel gap all around is about 2 fingers, or does the front have more space than the rear?

ericmpena 10-29-2013 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shad0ez (Post 1299508)
Not a problem, I'm exploring as many different options as possible before deciding on what I will be doing and would like to know the pro's and con's of each set up.

So wheel gap all around is about 2 fingers, or does the front have more space than the rear?

On my car the rear sits a little lower. I have about 1 finger space in the rear wheels, and 1 1/2 finger space on front wheels. Can't quite fit 2 fingers for the front.

BlueDubbinTDI 10-29-2013 06:51 AM

Is this still 1 of the biggest drops you can get from springs or is there something else?

boredom.is.me 10-29-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1299787)
On my car the rear sits a little lower. I have about 1 finger space in the rear wheels, and 1 1/2 finger space on front wheels. Can't quite fit 2 fingers for the front.

It could be a result of your wheel and tire combo. I'm running 225/40R18 and 245/40R18 and my rear has a little less space than the front.

ericmpena 10-29-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1300019)
It could be a result of your wheel and tire combo. I'm running 225/40R18 and 245/40R18 and my rear has a little less space than the front.

I'll check it out. I think all 4 tires are the same, but I'll have to make sure.

Superhatch 10-29-2013 11:35 AM

Enkei RPF1 17x8 +45 with Dunlop Z2 245/40/17
Eibach Sportlines
Stock struts (photo), now Koni inserts.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i_zgok0m3k...0/IMG_3194.JPG

These springs are great. Along with the Koni's I think the give a great feel, and a great drop for not much investment. I've had this same combo on other cars and have always loved it. To me it looks like an OEM height in comparison to other sports cars or sporty cars.

Shad0ez 10-29-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1300019)
It could be a result of your wheel and tire combo. I'm running 225/40R18 and 245/40R18 and my rear has a little less space than the front.

What offset do you have for your front and rear? This is pretty much the setup I was going to go with and hopefully come out with a flush look. Have any pics on how it looks that you don't mind sharing?

boredom.is.me 10-29-2013 04:11 PM

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Here:

18x8et45 225/40R18
18x9et42 245/40R18

Camber: 0.5F/1R

Shad0ez 10-29-2013 04:37 PM

Nice. Looks good! Did you notice any issues with rubbing or having to roll fenders?

boredom.is.me 10-29-2013 05:14 PM

-no issues at all
-no rolling required

Turkish 10-30-2013 01:02 AM

The more I look at pics of 86's with these springs, the more I want them. I was planning of having had purchased these already, but with my brz being on the cusp of qualifying under the texas lemon law, I am putting a hold on mods for the moment. One way or another I shall be installing these though!

autobahned 11-27-2013 12:10 AM

Do you have photos from the side? Thanks!

MPI_Jack 11-28-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 398352)
Distance from center of front wheel to fender - FRONT
Stock springs: 14 7/16"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 1/4" drop)

Distance from center of front wheel to fender - REAR
Stock springs: 14 5/8"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 5/16" drop)

Took measurements after a couple of days and they didn't change, so these numbers are the final measurements for our installation.

Review coming soon.

I have had mine on for least 5 months already, I have confirmed these measurements as well. Spot on. I would like to lower my car at least another 1/2-3/4 of an inch with my new wheels that are being built. Coilovers for me, but these springs have been excellent.

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