Props for taking your own approach to every part developed this far. Question, do you guys think that stock inlet from the bumper has sufficient airflow? I'm interested to see if you guys find another source or increase the inlet size.

Wow! That's one way to think out of the box. I really like the velosity stack you got there. It's huge! I can't wait to see the final product.

I especially love how there's a little window to show off the beautiful artwork of the velocity stack.

^
+1

I wonder where the filter is going to reside

Here are some MOAR pics.

The next 6 pics is showing the plexiglass top cover as well as the filter placement of the intake system (please keep in mind that it is not complete as of yet and we will have a heatshield to protect the filter from engine bay heat as well as direct fresh air from the factory air snorkel), enjoy:
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake15.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake16.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake17.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake18.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake19.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake20.jpg

Of couse a couple of the guys at the shop decided to put an LED light inside the box, I bitched a little, but I must say it did look pretty cool, perhaps for cars in car shows :w00t:
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake21.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake22.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake23.jpg
http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/image...e/intake24.jpg

Lol I'm REALLY digging this design now, LED light might seem ricer to some, but I think that's freaking sick! If the Audi R8 can have LEDs in it's engine bay, I want an LED in my intake! hehe

:thumbsup: for effort, and originality

:thumbdown: for actual engineering efficiency

And this comment is based on what???

Interesting, I like the idea. Are you going to do some kind of thermal barrier coating on the aluminum or leave it as is? I was hoping the intake/filter section would be more like the stock design though, with maybe a bigger panel filter used...seems like this system will add quite a bit of weight compared to the stock one. Can't wait to see the test results though and how it performs though!

Spatial reasoning

Did not know that you were a "glorified visual thinker" which obviously makes you an expert in fluid and flow dynamics that you can compute in your head from 2D pics better than high end CFD programs can do. Very Cool ... NOT!!! :bonk::bonk::bonk:

Additional props on thinking you know me. :bellyroll:

Was making educated observations...not pissing in your wheaties. I like the way it looks.

Having scored 99.8th percentile for spatial reasoning doesn't make me an expert, but you better believe the education and training received over the years has.

Yes Ladies and gentlemen, ^^ This IS the internet!!!

That's great Bravo for you, I think someone needs Trader Joe's Highbrow Chocolate Chip Cookies for scoring 99.8% on spacial reasoning; I bet he is doing some serious spatial reasoning on the cookie to determine how good it will taste, with and without milk and he can successfully deduce the exact taste pretty accurately as his education and years of training gives him the experience to do so.

Lol ^ This guy.

you got jokes.

Yes you are.

Oh my bad, thought this area of the forums was to show and discuss Parts and development...Wouldn't have said that in the classified section of the forums, as that would have been bad form for polluting someones sale thread.

@SRT,
What is your opinion of pleated paper air filters? I am in the habit of replacing my (stock) air filter every 10,000 kilometers. I appreciate everything's a compromise but I would prefer cleaner air vs better flow filtering. Do you think a pleated paper filter would flow sufficiently well given the same dimensions as the filter pictured?
Ta

Also curious.

I don't even know what spatial reasoning is.

I see a straight shot into the TB with a nicely radiused entry. The fact that is boxed can take advantage of resonance effects. And that it is shorter than stock means that the resonance effect should be higher in the rev range than stock, which is also where gains from higher flow should show up.

Looks good.

Can't wait for dyno results and the finished heat shielding.

You haven't discussed anything yet... so far all you've said is "spatial reasoning" :sigh:

Try making educated responses instead of cocky one liners and then people will be willing to work with you.

can't wait for vids

want to hear this so badly

this forum welcomes intelligent debate however there was neither intelligence nor debate in what you said. you retty much shot down the design while giving no reason or cause as to why.

I can't seem to find your post about how you would improve the design. Could you point me to it?

Question...is it required to get the ECU thing with the intake or can I buy an ECUTek tune from Visconti? Could I have him make a map for me that would do the same without a second ECU? Or would the ECU with the intake conflict with an ECUTek tune?

I'm really digging this design and I'm looking forward to results! I'd really like it if I can keep all (or at least most) of my mods with one company/vendor. I ordered your exhaust and I would like to get your intake and headers as long as the results are in-line with the competition.

Thanks for the hard work and thinking outside the box!

BTW, when I first read LED's I though eewwww, but I have to admit, it looks pretty damn good!

Thanks!

Ruskymx

I seriously can't wait for vids and dyno results....this is epic.

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Vids vids vids! :D

This is a very interesting idea, even if I am not completely sure what a resonance chamber is supposed to do, exactly.

I am definitely not an expert in fluid dynamics, though. :)

This is from a thread on another car forum (non-twins). Seems to make sense and i'm wondering what your thoughts on this are.

Depends on the filter you choose and what it is rated to flow. The filter we are using is the same filter element we use in our turbo 2JZ and K20 motors that have pushed upwards of 800+whp without and issues.

You should be able to order it without the piggyback ECU if you would like to do that, however, you must realize that it will not work properly if you do not have some sort of tuning with this intake.

Thanks for your support. :thumbsup: Results will not disappoint.

You mentioned plans to utilize the factory air snorkel with those most recent pics (which are sexy as hell by the way) but I remember in AIRAID's thread reading that the opening at the end of that snorkel housed inside the bumper is significantly smaller than the opening into the bumper itself. They stated that removing the snorkel resulted in 20% better flow.

Here's the quote. What are your thoughts on this?

In general Im really curious to see how much hp a non-ECU-needing intake makes once you have a tune on it.

X intake w/o tune = 4hp.

Y intake which needs a tune = 8hp.

Would X intake make 8hp with a tune anyways, and if so in the end will you just be better off buying the non-ECU-needing intake so you can get gains without having to spend an extra $500-1000? Time will tell on this, but the hp/$ factor for in intake that also needs a piggyback ECU to be installed seems like it would be really, really low...

...unless it makes a shit ton of power. I'm really looking forward to the dyno results on this intake.

You will have to just wait a few more days to see our design on the heatshield. We have taken consideration that the factory snorkel is kind of restrictive and have taken appropriate measures to make sure our intake will have an adequate supply of air for the engine to breath with no restrictions.



There will be more clarifications on the piggyback ecu that will be supplied with our intake system as standard part of the intake system. You will NOT need to spend an extra $500-$1000 in any other additional tuning solution.

Now that I have a slow point at work.

I apologize for the obvious flaw in my initial approach, while simply expressing my personal opinion, being emotionally detached; I failed to take a moment to consider how someone else might interpret the comments, as I was in the middle of 4 different tasks.

I also never said it wouldn't work or be effective, I just stated that there are inefficiencies to the design, but honestly...those are present in every design I have seen so far.

A big issue with this setup, aside from turbulence, however minor inside the air box, is where the air will be coming from. This engine bay runs very hot. Currently I live in Phoenix, lately it has been 115ish during the days, which puts the engine bay at or over 200 at times, depending on the circumstances. The majority of the air pulled into this setup would be from that engine bay, 60-80 degrees warmer over all than the air outside.

Obviously, without hands on I can't make an informed desicion, just the educated s.w.a.g. Thus, I originally just threw my opinion up there.

I am an enthusiast, just like everyone else here. I want the community to have access to the best possible setups for our cars. If I see an issue, I will call it like I see it, as most of us will. If I was still back east where my shop is, I would have put something together, but I am not. I had to hastily move for a job, and leave it all behind.

That's great, but every test on this car has shown that the engine is making more power with hotter air, rather than a standard CAI.

Plus, the air inside the engine bay in front of the engine is completely equalized with the air in front of the car at around 5mph, per the research I've seen on this car. They aren't going to run into any issues pulling air from where they are.

Brought it up because I notice a difference driving in the middle of the night when its only 100 outside as opposed to at 5pm when its 116.

if this makes any type of power and if the pricing is right, it shall be in my car.

Ahh....didn't realized this was a supplied piggyback. In for more details.

Also, thanks for answering questions so late into the night.

You could have said that the first go around. However, you missed the point that this is still in the R&D phase. In our post above you did read that the system will have a heat shield around the filter and will be getting most of its air from the outside factory location using the factory snorkel. Heat is going to be a non issue.

For people asking about heat soak issues with the aluminum air box: ask yourself this when you are cruising at a speed as low as 1500 RPM the engine might be producing about 20HP meaning it will be consuming roughly about 2lbs/min of air, change to volume, we get 5788 gallons/min or roughly 774 cubic feet/min. Yes that is a lot of volume getting sucked down by the engine every minute, ok, let's convert to seconds: 96.5gal/sec or 12.9 cu.ft/sec. That's a lot of air, the moral of the story, even during the lightest load driving conditions the air traveling through the system will NOT have enough time to get heat soaked. Now imagine how much air is passing through the engine at full load, yup A LOT.

Well been a very long day today, good night everyone.

Also interested in hearing more about this, I have been leaning towards hitting the Visconti group buy since my wheels are a couple months away but this may change that decision too.

Given the modular tuning options with this car how will this piggyback for the your intake system cope with your header back exhaust system? My interpretation is the intake requires a piggyback while the the exhaust does not. What happens when you combine the 2?

(Seriously, that window looks awesome. Sort of peering into the secret inner mechanicals)

Will the piggy back be user adjustable or is it basically a one shot tune specifically for this intake?