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Zaku 09-13-2017 11:09 PM

I'm just be glad there's a 2018 model year and we don't have the color palette of just Black white Red and grey.

weederr33 09-13-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2978176)
Engine and tranny swap! No ECU to worry about. Would need to drill a hole for the manual choke cable to pass through though.

http://cdn.speednik.com/wp-content/b...biscayne_4.jpg

This must be my next mod!

Veloist 09-14-2017 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2977901)
What about the RS 2.0?


Edit: Meaning, is Desert Khaki offered on the twins anywhere else in the world?


Also, what about the 10-series? Was that color offered anywhere else?

That's true. I actually have a master list that I have yet to post here but the numbers are:

10 Series: 2000 TOTAL (North America)
.HyperBlue: 500 for USA, 100 for Canada, 50 for Australia = 650 TOTAL
.Yellow: 500 for USA, Unknown # for Canada = 500+ TOTAL
RS 2.0: 850 for USA, 150 for Canada = 1000 TOTAL

So far Series.Yellow is the "unicorn color" between the twins since we don't know Canada's number (it's most likely less than 100).

The rare colors are cool but I don't know how I'll feel about them when these cars age. The Miata (NA,NB especially) was also a car that has a bunch of special edition colors but when I see those particular Miatas I see them as "just another clean Miata."

Honestly I'm more wowed by a special edition color when the car is significantly modified and that's coming from someone who keeps their HyperBlue stock (I'd keep any BRZ pretty muchstock btw regardless of edition.)

funwheeldrive 09-14-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2978088)
That one no. Exactly the same with slightly different wheels yes.


That's an Evo8 right? I thought you had a regular trim Lancer?

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Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 2978279)

Honestly I'm more wowed by a special edition color when the car is significantly modified and that's coming from someone who keeps their HyperBlue stock (I'd keep any BRZ pretty muchstock btw regardless of edition.)

I'm kind of the same way when it comes to Monograms. I know it's not technically a special edition, but I always love seeing a clean, modified Monogram. What's crazy is that there are like 3 in town not including mine. I guess I'm not a special snowflake after all. :bellyroll:

NyC Zn6 09-14-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2977901)
What about the RS 2.0?


Edit: Meaning, is Desert Khaki offered on the twins anywhere else in the world?


Also, what about the 10-series? Was that color offered anywhere else?

Silver Ignition (10 Series) was offered on all of Scion's cars at the time.

funwheeldrive 09-14-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2978357)
Silver Ignition (10 Series) was offered on all of Scion's cars at the time.

I meant more specifically to the 86 model. I wasn't sure if it was offered in Japan or anywhere other than North America.

NyC Zn6 09-14-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2978361)
I meant more specifically to the 86 model. I wasn't sure if it was offered in Japan or anywhere other than North America.

Only the FR-S got that color, not the BRZ. It was exclusive to North America and some Central American/Caribbean countries.

Tcoat 09-14-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2978352)
That's an Evo8 right? I thought you had a regular trim Lancer?



I'm kind of the same way when it comes to Monograms. I know it's not technically a special edition, but I always love seeing a clean, modified Monogram. What's crazy is that there are like 3 in town not including mine. I guess I'm not a special snowflake after all. :bellyroll:

It is. Other than the wider fenders mine was body kitted to look like an 8. We didn't get Evos in Canada until the X so I faked it. Yes I was a ricer!

PetrolioBenzina 09-14-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2978232)
This must be my next mod!

Might be fun to stick an Edsel badge on the car.

Breadstickz 09-15-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 2978279)
That's true. I actually have a master list that I have yet to post here but the numbers are:

10 Series: 2000 TOTAL (North America)
.HyperBlue: 500 for USA, 100 for Canada, 50 for Australia = 650 TOTAL
.Yellow: 500 for USA, Unknown # for Canada = 500+ TOTAL
RS 2.0: 850 for USA, 150 for Canada = 1000 TOTAL

So far Series.Yellow is the "unicorn color" between the twins since we don't know Canada's number (it's most likely less than 100).

The rare colors are cool but I don't know how I'll feel about them when these cars age. The Miata (NA,NB especially) was also a car that has a bunch of special edition colors but when I see those particular Miatas I see them as "just another clean Miata."

Honestly I'm more wowed by a special edition color when the car is significantly modified and that's coming from someone who keeps their HyperBlue stock (I'd keep any BRZ pretty muchstock btw regardless of edition.)

when I bought my series yellow dealer said 100 in canada but of course I haven't confirmed that or anything

Tcoat 09-15-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Breadstickz (Post 2978893)
when I bought my series yellow dealer said 100 in canada but of course I haven't confirmed that or anything

That was what was said on one of the actual Subaru press releases.

chaoskaze 09-20-2017 02:32 PM

Don't forget Japan got their yellow more early too. Both the RS1.0 yellow and series yellow yellow.

S1LENT720 09-21-2017 11:39 AM

found the yellow 86 on the gazoo racing facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ToyotaMo...=page_internal

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net...40&oe=5A4E706C

sirsol66 09-21-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by S1LENT720 (Post 2981648)


Oh crap.... I really like that. Now to just see if the yellow or grey comes here.

funwheeldrive 09-21-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sirsol66 (Post 2981671)
Oh crap.... I really like that. Now to just see if the yellow or grey comes here.

Agreed, I think the yellow looks a lot better on the 86 compared to the BRZ.

SkAsphalt 09-21-2017 06:12 PM

I have ALWAYS wanted a yellow Twin. Lovely. Sad I missed the original TRD release edition.

https://scontent.fyqr1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...91&oe=5A4094FA
https://scontent.fyqr1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...22&oe=5A5A6A19
https://scontent.fyqr1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...5b&oe=5A46726C
https://scontent.fyqr1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...84&oe=5A415DD3
https://scontent.fyqr1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ce&oe=5A4A4B2A
https://scontent.fyqr1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...a7&oe=5A53ED5D



It looks so nice.

funwheeldrive 09-21-2017 06:50 PM

Having the lower portion of the bumper painted black makes the MY17 86 front look 100% better too.

Tcoat 09-25-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2981849)
Having the lower portion of the bumper painted black makes the MY17 86 front look 100% better too.

Well maybe 87.26% better

Spec C Wannabe 09-25-2017 08:59 PM



Anybody konows what is the brand/model/spec of wheels on that car? Looks kinda hefty and racy to me.

SkAsphalt 09-26-2017 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec C Wannabe (Post 2983536)
Anybody konows what is the brand/model/spec of wheels on that car? Looks kinda hefty and racy to me.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v3izoqECG...2BPhotos_4.jpg

These cars are racing in the TMG GT86 cup, so probably standardized wheels (guessing) which would mean these OZ racing wheels.

Spec C Wannabe 09-28-2017 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 2983824)
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v3izoqECG...2BPhotos_4.jpg

These cars are racing in the TMG GT86 cup, so probably standardized wheels (guessing) which would mean these OZ racing wheels.


Well, thanks.

Quentin 10-03-2017 09:31 PM

Any other official information for the 2018s? I'm seeing 6 different model codes, so it looks like we will be getting trims at least. If it mirrors Subaru, that would mean performance package, too.

airjonny 10-03-2017 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 2987251)
Any other official information for the 2018s? I'm seeing 6 different model codes, so it looks like we will be getting trims at least. If it mirrors Subaru, that would mean performance package, too.

I sure hope so.

sirsol66 10-04-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 2987251)
Any other official information for the 2018s? I'm seeing 6 different model codes, so it looks like we will be getting trims at least. If it mirrors Subaru, that would mean performance package, too.


Saw the same thing. 6 trim models (3 trims across 2 transmissions). Hot lava is gone. Thunder is pretty official.

Tcoat 10-04-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sirsol66 (Post 2987449)
Saw the same thing. 6 trim models (3 trims across 2 transmissions). Hot lava is gone. Thunder is pretty official.

So two trim levels and a special edition are likely.

sirsol66 10-04-2017 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2987451)
So two trim levels and a special edition are likely.

About 99% sure its going to be 3 trim levels + special edition coming later. Most likely just like Japan, so base, GT, or GT Limited.

mazeroni 10-04-2017 12:09 PM

https://www.iseecars.com/used-car-fi...udy=car-colors

Yellow is now very popular among men, according to this research.

"The company analyzed more than 700,000 consumer car inquiries on iSeeCars.com and close to 30 million car sales to identify car color preferences by gender.

Although previous data showed men have a stronger preference than women for brighter car colors, men’s preference for yellow cars increased 63.8 percent and their preference for orange cars increased 41.7 percent since last year."

Of course, preference for orange* did increase. I attribute the growth of yellow to the Mustang and Camaro.

* It just occured to me that Solar Orange is Orange, and the 860 has it. So it makes sense that they would do an orange S/E and add yellow. Although, ditching Hot Lava is an interesting choice. Perhaps it has more to do with the type of orange, as Hot Lava is more of a burnt color.

https://blog.iseecars.com/wp-content...lors-chart.jpg

funwheeldrive 10-04-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sirsol66 (Post 2987460)
About 99% sure its going to be 3 trim levels + special edition coming later. Most likely just like Japan, so base, GT, or GT Limited.

Damn, the 86 is already expensive for the base. How much would a 86 with a performance package be? Surely around 31k?

Quentin 10-04-2017 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2987451)
So two trim levels and a special edition are likely.



My system traditionally calls out special editions as special editions. These all look like normal trims.


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sirsol66 10-04-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 2987505)
My system traditionally calls out special editions as special editions. These all look like normal trims.


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Same. I'm just seeing three trim levels, with 6 overall unique vehicle codes. Before this, FRS only had 2.

If I was a betting man, I would say no brembo/sachs pacakge but rather base 86 (same as current), GT (add push button start/proximity key/ dual zone), GT Limited (add heated leather seats and rear spoiler).

funwheeldrive 10-04-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sirsol66 (Post 2987519)
Same. I'm just seeing three trim levels, with 6 overall unique vehicle codes. Before this, FRS only had 2.

If I was a betting man, I would say no brembo/sachs pacakge but rather base 86 (same as current), GT (add push button start/proximity key/ dual zone), GT Limited (add heated leather seats and rear spoiler).

What makes you say no PP for the 86? Just curious.

airjonny 10-04-2017 01:59 PM

So base (what's out now) and Limited (stuff from the BRZ). Wonder what that 3rd could be. Maybe that black package that Japan is getting which is basically the Performance pack with black wheels? Highly unlikely for 2018, but maybe it will be the GR model rebranded as TRD minus some things missing (No recaros) to make it cheaper?

Tcoat 10-04-2017 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirsol66 (Post 2987460)
About 99% sure its going to be 3 trim levels + special edition coming later. Most likely just like Japan, so base, GT, or GT Limited.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 2987505)
My system traditionally calls out special editions as special editions. These all look like normal trims.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirsol66 (Post 2987519)
Same. I'm just seeing three trim levels, with 6 overall unique vehicle codes. Before this, FRS only had 2.

If I was a betting man, I would say no brembo/sachs pacakge but rather base 86 (same as current), GT (add push button start/proximity key/ dual zone), GT Limited (add heated leather seats and rear spoiler).

Thanks guys! Interesting to know. No more Lava though so my next will need to be blue so will be a BRZ.

strat61caster 10-04-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2987539)
Thanks guys! Interesting to know. No more Lava though so my next will need to be blue so will be a BRZ.

no way

Go dig up a low mileage Oceanic/Ultramarine/GSB the bright blue is on every other WRX with vape stickers all over the windows. I thought part of the charm of the orange was that not everyone has one?

Edit: I mean, new 86 in Oceanic is possible...

Tcoat 10-04-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2987703)
no way

Go dig up a low mileage Oceanic/Ultramarine/GSB the bright blue is on every other WRX with vape stickers all over the windows. I thought part of the charm of the orange was that not everyone has one?

Edit: I mean, new 86 in Oceanic is possible...

If I was going to find a low mileage one I would just get another Lava and wouldn't need to go blue at all.

The ONLY thing that would make me manage to control my repulsion of the new front end would be if it was in Lava. Blue would not cut it.

mazeroni 10-04-2017 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airjonny (Post 2987535)
So base (what's out now) and Limited (stuff from the BRZ). Wonder what that 3rd could be. Maybe that black package that Japan is getting which is basically the Performance pack with black wheels? Highly unlikely for 2018, but maybe it will be the GR model rebranded as TRD minus some things missing (No recaros) to make it cheaper?

Likely:

Base
GT (Limited trim) $30K
TRD - (base trim with PP, skirts all around, unique wheels, and exhaust) $30k

So it's basically one or the other and no mix like the BRZ where you must get the Limited for the PP. I would expect the TRD might actually cost closer to $32k. Then you slot the Supra with the 30i motor at 35k-ish and that gives Toyota a spread from entry level buyer to mid level buyer \ conquest buyers that move from the base or TRD and into the Supra later. The GT people can go to Lexus.

Borchert97 10-05-2017 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni (Post 2987850)
Likely:

Base
GT (Limited trim) $30K
TRD - (base trim with PP, skirts all around, unique wheels, and exhaust) $30k

So it's basically one or the other and no mix like the BRZ where you must get the Limited for the PP. I would expect the TRD might actually cost closer to $32k. Then you slot the Supra with the 30i motor at 35k-ish and that gives Toyota a spread from entry level buyer to mid level buyer \ conquest buyers that move from the base or TRD and into the Supra later. The GT people can go to Lexus.

If they do a TRD/PP I'll have to trade in my 2017... -_-

My one regret with my car, that I'm absolutely in love with, is that there was a 2017 WRB BRZ w/ PP at the Subaru I work at, at the same time. It was a really tough mental battle whether I wanted to sacrifice appearance (I personally think the BRZ looks childish compared to the mildly aggressive FR-S and more so aggressive 86), or sacrifice "race mode" by skipping that PP and getting the 86 which in my opinion, is a better color (Lapis Blue/Oceanic vs. WRB), turn-key, which I like, and cloth seats, which I also don't mind, also won't miss those oddly placed seat heater buttons as well as the push button start, both taking up spaces I take for granted in my 86. If I can somehow get the PP goodies on an 86 without the push-button and heated seats, I would do it in a heartbeat.


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