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mcrane 12-09-2015 08:39 AM

The more I have been driving it, the better it has gotten. Not sure if getting used to it, or it is being "broken in" more.

Alltezza 12-09-2015 12:45 PM

Lol I did change my fluids to Motul, but other than that first and 2nd have been pretty damn clunky especially 2nd gear

Trust86 12-09-2015 12:54 PM

Slap a hello kitty band aid on the transmission
works wonders

dvasqu01 12-10-2015 01:44 AM

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humfrz 12-10-2015 02:11 AM

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Ultramaroon 12-10-2015 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeC (Post 2473441)
just once I would love to drive someone's car that says they have this issue. Perhaps my car doesn't have the issue but I guess I'm skeptical of others that do. This transmission is definitely the tightest, most affirmative transmission I've ever owned. 1st to 2nd, it just clicks right in. Granted, you can't just pull it straight down with no resistance but you move it in motion with all the other parts.

Has anyone driven multiple variants to confirm that some of these cars shift significantly worse than others?

Now shifting gears in my 1-ton Silverado, that takes some time and patience and the gear lever is longer than my leg, hahha

Simple. While it's stone cold, for your 1-2 shift, pause in neutral for a second. Then you will immediately understand.

JoeC 12-10-2015 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2476683)
Simple. While it's stone cold, for your 1-2 shift, pause in neutral for a second. Then you will immediately understand.

thanks. I'll try it tomorrow and see if I notice it.

Ultramaroon 12-10-2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeC (Post 2476734)
thanks. I'll try it tomorrow and see if I notice it.

It's pretty dramatic. @Tcoat

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...51#post2448051

JoeC 12-10-2015 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2476763)

crazy. I've never seen that thread. thanks for linking it. first I'm gonna try this in my BRZ then I'm gonna try it in my truck and my jeep.

edit: I guess I had seen that thread but not tcoat's post...

JoeC 12-11-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2476763)

well, I tried it and did notice anything...

shifting from 1st to 2nd:
accelerate in 1st up to 4k RPM
clutch in
pull down to neutral
clutch out
let revs fall
clutch in
pull into 2nd

it went into 2nd just fine. admittedly it doesn't like to downshift into 1st without rev matching but when I match it goes right in.

maybe I'm just lucky

Ultramaroon 12-11-2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeC (Post 2478025)
well, I tried it and did notice anything...

shifting from 1st to 2nd:
accelerate in 1st up to 4k RPM
clutch in
pull down to neutral
clutch out
let revs fall
clutch in
pull into 2nd

it went into 2nd just fine. admittedly it doesn't like to downshift into 1st without rev matching but when I match it goes right in.

maybe I'm just lucky

I meant just with the clutch depressed, pause for a bit in neutral, then go for second gear. Even after 20K miles, if I don't get through neutral quickly enough, that sucker won't go in unless I yank extra hard. Higher gears are fine but second gear is still short enough that the synchro has trouble spooling the input side through the thick oil.

For the record, I have zero complaints about this transmission, so far. I just instinctively play around to see what technique gets me through the gears using the lightest touch possible. That knowledge, IMO, applies just as well to the more "spirited" driving.

That second part was just extra opinion for whomever. You double-clutch into a rolling first so we're pretty much on the same page.

Chrisgalactic 12-12-2015 06:29 PM

That "pause" works wonders never try'd it before and holy shit does it make a difference! Thanks a lot Ultramaroon

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Capt Spaulding 12-15-2015 12:42 AM

I have fewer than 2000 miles on my Subarota. In that time, though, I've noticed it shares some transmission quirks with my '06 F150 DD. The most notable is, it does NOT like to be forced into a shift. If I'm sitting at a light with the truck in neutral and the light turns green, a quick stab on the clutch pedal and a shove of the shifter into first will yield exactly nothing. It will simply NOT shift into first. On the other hand, a gentle push of the lever leaving time for the various parts to do what they are supposed to do results in a smooth engagement of the gear.

My particular BRZ is very similar. It responds very well to a gentle, but firm, hand on the shifter. Give it a little time. Sometimes the fastest way to get something done is to slow down a little.

Ultramaroon 11-16-2019 04:31 PM

I can see how it's easy for the casual reader to misunderstand my reply to JoeC. I am not advocating for pausing between first and second. I was explaining how to create the condition that causes people to have trouble shifting into second when it's cold.


Different techniques yield different results because physics.


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