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fumanchu1 10-23-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zkahle (Post 2429161)
Thanks for the replys, and I actually hydroplaned at 60 mph and I wasn't accelerating. This occurred during the storms yesterday in the Dallas ft worth area. After ******* myself I turned the snow mode on to help gain extra traction need be and to my surprise the tires broke loose again less than 30 minutes later at about the same speed. So I'm hoping a fatter tire will help with the issue.

ROFL nothing can really stop you hydroplaning @60mph if the puddle is large enough(unless we are talking wet grip dedicated tires). Rule of thumb is if you don't want to hydroplane in large storm don't drive above 70 km/h (about 45 mph). That's just physics, I've hydroplaned with all the above mentioned tires (except maybe 1 or 2 I haven't tried) the only way around it is to slow down.

fumanchu1 10-23-2015 11:35 AM

In another thread:

Guys I seem to have trouble landing a plane because I keep trying to barrel roll while landing, Any recommendations on better landing gears?

Yes I'm poking fun at OP

EAGLE5 10-23-2015 11:48 AM

LOL. All this supportive language and then it turns out he's going way too fast.

Texans just don't know how to drive in the rain. They've never seen it before.

bhmax 10-23-2015 11:58 AM

Do you have a tread depth tool? You can get them really cheap if not. How deep is the tread? I've had brand new tires that aren't known for being great in the wet do well against hydroplaning since they have all that tread space to shed water. Not so much when they get down to 4/32". I had MPSS on an Evo. They did ok, but I never really liked the feel. I've liked the feel of Bridgestones that I've run recently on other cars-960AS, RE11A, and S04. Continently DW seems to get decent reviews on wet driving, although I didn't like the DWS all season compared to the Bridgestone 960AS. Still deciding on what I want when I wear out the Primacys.

cjd 10-23-2015 12:05 PM

225 PSS are my "ponds on the course" race tire (and my general purpose summer tire...)

As already noted, the things that will help your situation are in the opposite direction of your planned changes. Less dry grip and narrower tire will be what helps. Or, drive slower when conditions warrant.

Poodles 10-23-2015 12:49 PM

It's flooding conditions here in DFW, slow the f#%$ down... No tire is going to deal with a couple inches of water on the road at that speed.

JazzleSAURUS 10-23-2015 01:18 PM

I've had great luck with Bridgestone S-04's. The MPSS is a great tire though, I have to speculate that you're doing it wrong :)

EDIT: Do you have traction control on? Are you sure you're hydroplaning, or just not used to how traction control feels with lots of water at speed perhaps?

chaoskaze 10-23-2015 02:53 PM

don't drive over puddles @ any reasonable speed. O.o

totopo 10-23-2015 04:08 PM

just be careful when researching tires on tire rack. "wet traction" is different than hydroplane resistance. Hydroplaning resistance is related to the volume of water you can move/unit time. Things that help, as people have mentioned, are narrow tires and high tread depth (and slower car velocity). tread design helps as well.

The tire rack wet traction tests will test the traction capability when wet but not hydroplaning. Tires with more dry traction usually have more wet traction as well, though sometimes the issue is comparative traction, as in the difference between wet and dry traction may be more important as to the driver's expectations and likelihood of getting into an accident.

It sounds like hydroplaning is your main issue, so mostly just make sure you have enough tread depth and make sure your tire pattern has decent grooves. Are you running OEM suspension? if you are lowered and running camber, that is bad for hydroplaning resistance. Have you checked alignment? Also when checking groove depth, measure the inside most, middle most, and side most grooves. For most people. your inside most will be the most worn, but hardest to see, so you may think you have tread left but really don't. If you overinflate your tires, your middle grove may actually be the shallowest, so check that too. If your side groove is shallowest, you need more static camber, you track-fiend.

As people have said, for road noise and comfort stick with the 17's or go for 16's. Modern sidewalls are great, small wheels rule.

8R6 10-23-2015 05:05 PM

for an everyday street car, i personally think the hankook ventus v12's are the best tires "overall". i had the michelin PSS before on my previous car, and it's an awesome tire, but definitely on the expensive side when compared to other street tires. for the money, i find the v12's are hard to beat when considering overall factors.

golfyankee2121 10-23-2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 8R6 (Post 2429840)
for an everyday street car, i personally think the hankook ventus v12's are the best tires "overall". i had the michelin PSS before on my previous car, and it's an awesome tire, but definitely on the expensive side when compared to other street tires. for the money, i find the v12's are hard to beat when considering overall factors.


I second this! I have the Ventus V12's in 245/35/18 and I love them. Great traction in the wet and dry, and they can be had for under $200/tire.

zkahle 10-24-2015 11:41 AM

For those of you who kindly posted that I was going too fast so sorry but i never broke 50 mph the entire trip. And yes the traction control was on and at time I even had the snow mode on for extra traction need be. Yes i know what hydroplaning is compared to the lack of grip that is expected when the roads are wet. Thank you for those of you who were kind enough for your recommendations. I am looking into all seasons now as the life span of my SS's seemed to suck anyways.

G-Man 10-24-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zkahle (Post 2429161)
Thanks for the replys, and I actually hydroplaned at 60 mph and I wasn't accelerating.

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Originally Posted by zkahle (Post 2430385)
For those of you who kindly posted that I was going too fast so sorry but i never broke 50 mph the entire trip.

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Cole 10-24-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by zkahle (Post 2430385)
For those of you who kindly posted that I was going too fast so sorry but i never broke 50 mph the entire trip. And yes the traction control was on and at time I even had the snow mode on for extra traction need be. Yes i know what hydroplaning is compared to the lack of grip that is expected when the roads are wet. Thank you for those of you who were kind enough for your recommendations. I am looking into all seasons now as the life span of my SS's seemed to suck anyways.

Snow mode doesn't give extra grip. All it does is help wheel spin on starts.


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