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King Tut 07-13-2015 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 2318581)
I'm not sure what happened, I'm not here to answer that.

But in response to your building dilemma....you want safety, and reliability...then you want forged internals, OR you want to just go back to being bone stock.

I dont know where you heard forged internals are a PITA. the rods are no different functioning then factory rods, they're just stronger. And as far as pistons, if you get 2618 they will have piston slap and burn some oil until they heat up but they handle alot more abuse then 4032...4032 act just as factory pistons and are stonger then factory pistons and are more then enough for most people.

You can get pistons with the same 12.5:1 compression ratio as well so your engine will feel no different then the way it is now, it will just handle the abuse of being boosted much better....and by that I mean you'll have a hard time blowing your engine, unless your tune is junk or your trying to make diesel torque way down low, etc etc.

Hope you figure it out and good luck, sorry to hear about your miss fortune and hopefully it isn't to bad.
Someone watched the Powerblock this weekend.

King Tut 07-13-2015 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 2318550)
Thanks, any recommendations are welcome.
Hard to give any recommendations without knowing more facts. What power level were you running at? Did you do any datalogging recently or at the AutoX to see how the car was running?

WHITE 07-13-2015 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 2319090)
Someone watched the Powerblock this weekend.
Not sure if your being sarcastic or if there was actualy an episode about forged internals on powerblock this weekend.....in which case I have no TV so, no I didn't watch powerblock.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with anything I said. I dont want to be spreading false info and its to my understanding that what I said was correct.

Sportsguy83 07-13-2015 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 2318623)
Those sound great, but I'm not really finding any with the stock compression.
JE will make you custom compression pistons (12.5:1) for around 20% more cost than their advertised CR pistons.

evo4g63 07-13-2015 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 2319095)
Hard to give any recommendations without knowing more facts. What power level were you running at? Did you do any datalogging recently or at the AutoX to see how the car was running?
+1 as King Tut stated, it is always a good idea to data log when doing some sort of tracking IMO. Even if the cars seems to be running great things can still go wrong.

Draco-REX 07-13-2015 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 2319095)
Hard to give any recommendations without knowing more facts. What power level were you running at? Did you do any datalogging recently or at the AutoX to see how the car was running?
Sprintex 210, 70mm pulley, E85, Delicious tune. So, close to 300 at the wheels. No log, unfortunately. Wish there was a more convenient way to capture ECUTEK logs.

King Tut 07-13-2015 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 2319116)
Not sure if your being sarcastic or if there was actualy an episode about forged internals on powerblock this weekend.....in which case I have no TV so, no I didn't watch powerblock.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with anything I said. I dont want to be spreading false info and its to my understanding that what I said was correct.
I wasn't being sarcastic. Technically it is Power Nation now, and it was the Engine Power episode this weekend and they went over the differences between cast aluminum, hypereutectic, and the two different forged piston options. They brought up the cold engine piston slap issues with the forged options like you did, but mostly focusing on the silicon content of each. I record and watch it every weekend religiously. They are the best automotive tech shows on TV and keep the advertisements to a minimum unlike all the other shows.

King Tut 07-13-2015 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 2319234)
Sprinted 210, 70mm pulley, E85, Delicious tune. So close to 300 at the wheels. No log, unfortunately. Wish there was a more convenient way to capture ECUTEK logs.
I would have thought 11.5 psi and E85 would have gotten you over 300 whp. I agree that the Hondata FlashPro I use in my S2000 is much nicer because I don't have to bring a laptop. I just reach over and hit the datalog button on the unit. You would think that since the EcuTek cable is overly expensive they could at least include some memory on it to record datalogs.

cdrazic93 07-13-2015 01:44 PM
Look at the realistic price of what youll be upgrading, factor in labor and what not. Then look at an lsx swap kit :thumbsup:

Draco-REX 07-13-2015 04:27 PM
The real kicker is that the car was absolutely *brilliant* at the event with the new suspension settings. I don't want to change a thing if I have the choice. But if it's not possible to reduce the chance of another failure to a minimum with reasonable money, I may have to consider another car. But I'd so regret selling it...

The wait for answers is going to kill me.

ybotspawn 07-13-2015 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 2319628)
The real kicker is that the car was absolutely *brilliant* at the event with the new suspension settings. I don't want to change a thing if I have the choice. But if it's not possible to reduce the chance of another failure to a minimum with reasonable money, I may have to consider another car. But I'd so regret selling it...

The wait for answers is going to kill me.
Whats stopping you from doing some prleiminary investigation? Is all the oil drained out? Where does it looks like it came from? Get some friends to roll it up on some ramps or put it on jack stands. The bottom heat shield is pretty eays to get off. Come on dude, inquiring minds want to know!

Draco-REX 07-13-2015 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2319368)
Look at the realistic price of what youll be upgrading, factor in labor and what not. Then look at an lsx swap kit :thumbsup:
Then I would ask myself, "Wouldn't I be better off with a Corvette?"

Draco-REX 07-13-2015 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ybotspawn (Post 2319633)
Whats stopping you from doing some prleiminary investigation? Is all the oil drained out? Where does it looks like it came from? Get some friends to roll it up on some ramps or put it on jack stands. The bottom heat shield is pretty eays to get off. Come on dude, inquiring minds want to know!
1. I'm at work.
2. It's not at my house.
3. After the rain today, it's probably parked in a puddle.

I may take a peek later this week. I'm also curious as to how it can lose so much oil and not have thrown a rod.

lbroskee 07-13-2015 05:05 PM
Do u have a lightweight crank pulley by chance? Sounds very similar to my issue but on turbo. Did pulls, fine. Stop to turn around, died


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