Originally Posted by blackhawkdown (Post 1897640)

I heard it's gonna be a quad turbo 7.2L v16 diesel hybrid

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech (Post 1897376)

I'm increasingly pessimistic that there will be a 2016 MY mid-cycle BRZ/GT86/FR-S refresh with either new front/rear fascias, significant suspension upgrades, or (most disappointingly) any engine power bump. The reason's pretty simple: there have been no sightings of any mules or cladded prototypes running anywhere in the world other than that one racing prototype sited on the Ring a few months ago. The fact that about 9 months before production would have to start for a summer 2015 release no production testers have been spied at all is very discouraging.

This line of thought was triggered by seeing this today: a prototype of the refreshed 2017 Fusion that has already been spotted.

I'm no expert on testing protocols but my sense from following the major blogs is that pretty much any major re-do gets caught by the spy photogs many months before the car is even announced. Really hope I'm wrong on this!

Originally Posted by AJPG (Post 1899009)

Did anyone knows how many unit have been sold in the 2.5 years run (US), or for that matter the world?

Originally Posted by GreenMonster (Post 1899129)

58K in US:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=455

100,000 total world wide... I can't find the thread where I read that... but it's somewhere on the forum :)

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech (Post 1897376)

I'm increasingly pessimistic that there will be a 2016 MY mid-cycle BRZ/GT86/FR-S refresh with either new front/rear fascias, significant suspension upgrades, or (most disappointingly) any engine power bump.

Originally Posted by marvey (Post 1899908)

The GT86 CS-R3 rally car supposedly has 240-250hp via cams and higher compression. Maybe this will trickle down. Or maybe not.

Originally Posted by marvey (Post 1899908)

...but instead want to slam their cars 2" lower to the ground or taillights that look like vaginas.

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1899049)

Why do you care? You've been a member since 2010 with the user name and avatar of the car. I'm thinking you would never buy the car anyways.

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech (Post 1900718)

Think away....

Not in any rush, current car only has 60K km, and I am buying for the long haul since I don't commute, so I prefer to get it right rather than jump in prematurely as the ownership period will be 10+ years- there are a few upcoming models I am waiting to test drive to compare.

Originally Posted by marvey (Post 1899908)

MY2015 has new suspension. Notable upgrade. This isn't mentioned much because most people don't care about real performance, but instead want to slam their cars 2" lower to the ground or taillights that look like vaginas.

IMO, the car could use better brakes, stickier rubber w/ appropriate wheels, and more weight reduction before moar powah.

The GT86 CS-R3 rally car supposedly has 240-250hp via cams and higher compression. Maybe this will trickle down. Or maybe not.

Originally Posted by s2d4 (Post 1900872)

Even higher compression? It already knocks like crazy on 91, and then there are the special ones using 87...... No way.