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SomeoneWhoIsntMe 06-10-2014 06:29 PM

checking in

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Calum 06-10-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeoneWhoIsntMe (Post 1789407)

Any details on what actually happened?

bakerr6 06-10-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1789442)
Any details on what actually happened?

that car recieved a visconti flex fuel kit and wasn't running the optional water bottle/fire extinguisher mod

Rocket.BRZ 06-10-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1789442)
Any details on what actually happened?

The flex fuel kit that he made leaked and caught on fire. The car is now owned by another person on this forum who is currently rebuilding it. He is also known for making horrible tunes that caused a few engines to blow up.

Calum 06-10-2014 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket.BRZ (Post 1789463)
The flex fuel kit that he made leaked and caught on fire. The car is now owned by another person on this forum who is currently rebuilding it. He is also known for making horrible tunes that caused a few engines to blow up such as Nelsmar's car.

I was in on the original GB. I jumped ship to Delicious Tuning after seeing just how bad my logs looked. Even after I getting multiple maps from john there was still more knock then my first map from Bill.

I was just asking if the cause of the fire was actually attributed to John's flex fuel kit, or if there was another reason as Nelsmar indicated.

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 06-10-2014 08:15 PM

The fire was so damn bad you can't really tell what had happened :/

post_break 06-10-2014 11:34 PM

I am currently tuned by Visconti. He updated his flexfuel kit that uses the same fittings as OEM now so it is impossible to leak. I think he got a bad wrap because everyone pretty much blew up without the facts. We can argue about the quality of the first kit all we want, but any time you mess with fuel systems there is a risk of something not working properly.

Fact; he can be hard to reach and get into really bad moods. There have been times when he's lashed out at me because I called him to ask him a question. Later he apologized and explained that it wasn't because I was calling him but because he was dealing with some other person who was pissing him off. I have thick skin and don't let that stuff get to me. I can see how people could see that side of John and say, nope never again. But there is one thing I've experienced with him, he has never let me down.

I think he's done a lot of great work for the community, and people on here might think I'm an idiot for that, but I don't care.

Turdinator 06-11-2014 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1789478)
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I was just asking if the cause of the fire was actually attributed to John's flex fuel kit, or if there was another reason as Nelsmar indicated.

I think @nelsmar was tuned by Tony at FA20club not Visconti when he had issues.

Rocket.BRZ 06-11-2014 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Turdinator (Post 1789998)
I think @nelsmar was tuned by Tony at FA20club not Visconti when he had issues.

Actually you are correct. Thanks for correcting me.

D K 06-11-2014 01:08 AM

I heard he was doing a marshmallows commercial somewhere

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 06-11-2014 07:55 AM

I did a little bit of digging when I bought the car, but I wasn't around on the forums when all this happened. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he tuning the car I own now when it burned down? The owner originally said he had gotten a call from the shop saying that they had bad news for him, and he hadn't even taken delivery of it yet when it caught on fire.

Also, in other cases you can pass the buck and say that people should have checked his work, which would be one thing if it was a materials or manufacturing defect, but no, he picked the wrong type of fitting to use. That right there should tell you this guy is a hack and he's got no idea what he's doing. You and I may not know much about different tapered thread profiles, sealing angles, or whatever it is that he got wrong, but you'd think that that would be important information for someone that's supposed to be engineering fuel hoses for a high-pressure direct injection fuel system to be familiar with. Not to mention, he should have performed adequate testing to find this flaw instead of letting his customer base do it for him.

And didn't the guy try charging for the "kit" to fix what was wrong with the first iteration of the product? Real class act right there.

After all this came to light, it's shocking people let him near their GTR's. I wouldn't trust the guy to tune my lawnmower.

nelsmar 06-11-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1789478)
I was in on the original GB. I jumped ship to Delicious Tuning after seeing just how bad my logs looked. Even after I getting multiple maps from john there was still more knock then my first map from Bill.

I was just asking if the cause of the fire was actually attributed to John's flex fuel kit, or if there was another reason as Nelsmar indicated.

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Originally Posted by Rocket.BRZ (Post 1790002)
Actually you are correct. Thanks for correcting me.

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Originally Posted by SomeoneWhoIsntMe (Post 1790387)
I did a little bit of digging when I bought the car, but I wasn't around on the forums when all this happened. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he tuning the car I own now when it burned down? The owner originally said he had gotten a call from the shop saying that they had bad news for him, and he hadn't even taken delivery of it yet when it caught on fire.

Also, in other cases you can pass the buck and say that people should have checked his work, which would be one thing if it was a materials or manufacturing defect, but no, he picked the wrong type of fitting to use. That right there should tell you this guy is a hack and he's got no idea what he's doing. You and I may not know much about different tapered thread profiles, sealing angles, or whatever it is that he got wrong, but you'd think that that would be important information for someone that's supposed to be engineering fuel hoses for a high-pressure direct injection fuel system to be familiar with. Not to mention, he should have performed adequate testing to find this flaw instead of letting his customer base do it for him.

And didn't the guy try charging for the "kit" to fix what was wrong with the first iteration of the product? Real class act right there.

After all this came to light, it's shocking people let him near their GTR's. I wouldn't trust the guy to tune my lawnmower.


Yeah FA20club had tuned my car, never again will I have someone else tune a car of mine. lol The one time that I know of Visconti having a car blow up he actually bought the guy a motor and had it installed for him. Not many shops do that...

As for the kit being related to the fire I never heard the final say on what happened. The fire was started near the DI high pressure pump. The flex fuel kit does not touch any of the high pressure lines. The problem with his kit was he had the wrong ID hose size and it was slightly over sized for the OEM hard line in which it was difficult to create a seal. FA20club fuel kits did the exact same issue by using the correct fuel line size but incorrect fittings (way too small!!). The thing is that car had the new flex fuel kit that required a permanently installed fitting on the hardline so it shouldn't have leaked and if it did it would have leaked near the firewall not at the engine. And from what I understand the fire marshall said that the fire started around the DI pump region.

After seeing a local car spring a leak near his DI pump on the first high pressure fuel line I actually started to lean towards the possibility that the carl legitimately caught fire without any relation to the flex fuel kit.

Just my 2 cents after having sprung multiple flex fuel leaks my self, and dealt with many other flex fuel leaks from multiple manufactures (all of which have resolved their issues afaik) and oem leaks on top...

wparsons 06-11-2014 02:02 PM

So much misinformation gets thrown around online, and people jump all over people as they climb on the bandwagon.

Sniper2606 06-11-2014 02:18 PM

Ob boy

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