Exactly. Honestly, I've just stopped reading/watching these types of reviews now. They are interesting but meaningless since this is a DD for me and not a track car.

In this case for example, if I had wanted a car to win a drag race, I would have gone with the second car on my list, the ZL1.

No matter how much a top dog you are, there's always one somewhere that hunts a little better.

^ Agreed!

Yeah...when I saw them line up and noticed a 1:00 video time I already knew exactly how that was all gonna end

I can't imagine many people are gonna build this car for Drag, there's nothing on the car to indicate it should ever see a drag tree...silly rag editors...

They should get the car and driver BRZ reviewer who did a 14.9 out there and try it again :D

The toyobaru continues to disappoint in comparison tests. Most people here are in a state of denial, and like an ostrich, want to keep their heads firmly buried in the sand. I'm certainly interested in this car and I want to know the characteristcs of the toyabru relative to other cars. You just can't alienate the car from the rest of what the market offers. After all, car buyers are in the market and do comparisons all the time. That's what a rational person does. The only car so far that the toyobaru can outdo is the MX-5 and cars below it, like the Yaris. Not good at all!! It was the bad enough that the splendid Megane RS flogged the living daylights out of the BRZ, but I find this test quite shattering in terms of my image of the car.

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Seriously though, this is one of the dumbest posts I've read on this forum.

This has to be a joke... you thought it would beat an S2000 ($36,000, 270hp, 8000+ rpm redline) in a drag race? And you accuse other people of having their heads in the sand... kettle, pot, black, etc.

Lol, looks like you're feeding on a diet of poor performance. The joke is on you. Sorry, but this is just not good enough. Go and cry somewhere else:cry::cry:

This consumer mentality is why cars today have becoming bigger, more expensive and built to target other vehicles to "fight against" ultimately becoming "boring" to some extent. The Zx6 was built on the premis of no comparison. Finding only the mechanical connection between the driver, a road in its rawest form. During engineering they took the caymen R as a benchmark of driving characteristics, not to beat in a performance test.

For someone like yourself to state continued disappointment means that your still stuck on the race, rather than the emotion that has been lost in sports cars since the mid 90s. But Im not saying your wrong, your abosuletly right in your post. But what we are trying to ask here is to shift our sight from the norm...

For many of us here who have been following this car since its announcement in 2009. What we have been searching for is not numbers, but a forgotten love story. Many people here have a big resume of cars from all sorts of power ranges, and their most memorable and heart felt experiences as an enthusiast have been with the most underpowered unimpressive cars.

The FRS/GT86/BRZ is the that same lost love story. Which im willing to pay a premium for, even if I get beat against a competition of numbers.

I can see both sides, but I gotta admit I'm a little disappointed, I already knew that the S2000 would be faster, but it got me thinking...the S2000 isn't a drag racer either, it's a back roads carving machine like the BRZ, very similar weight to the BRZ, same great handling. Why buy a BRZ when you can have an S2000 which will arguably give you a very similar experience for less money? Really not trying to troll here, but I'm not 100% loyal to the BRZ either. The car is fantastic I'm sure, but the S2000 has been doing the same thing for the past 12 years. 100 hp/liter, high redline, low weight and great handling. Am I missing something? I wanna know what makes this car different from an S2000, honest.

Well for me, the S2000 was horribly impractical, 18/24 economy is a down seller. and the fact that its a roadster.

While they are similar in handling, they achieve it in completely different ways.

What we should be asking ourselves is whats more important to us as an individual buyer? In the overall bigger picture, even if the s2000 is a better performer, the BRZ still offers the same feeling of the sportyness of the s2000 but has a wider range of uses. AKA the Zx6 has better general value.

Because it's a fixed roof coupe and is 100lbs + lighter ... not everyone wants a convertible. I'd love a Miata or S2000... if they were a fixed roof coupe.

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I love the s2000. Such a wonderful NA car. Especially on the track.

I'd own one now but it's way too loud in the cabin. It gets annoying and tiring on a long trip.

2008 s2000:
Power: 177 kW , 237 HP SAE @ 7,800 rpm; 162 ft lb , 220 Nm @ 6,800 rpm

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2008/...#ixzz1vev5wWPe

+Honda reliability and strong aftermarket. I hope the same holds true for the BRZ as mine will be here in 2-3 weeks.