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cf6mech 12-15-2013 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1390594)
do it. I'm planning for this in the future most likely lol.

Plus depending on which LS motor you choose, you would have 400-500 RELIABLE whp...without mods. :bow:
Reliable,.....NA.....stock motor.....instant torque....Tremec T56.....I cant see any bad points...plus it eliminates a lot of the glitches and concerns I have with my engine in its current state of aftermarket FI...as far as getting a C5 or another more purposeful built car,..... I see soccer moms driving them now.....I march to a different drummer.....I like the unusual stuff.

nelsmar 12-15-2013 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FirestormFRS (Post 1390534)
I'd be concerned about ruining the true nature of the car. That's a lot more weight than the car was designed around.

Price isn't exactly cheap either. Your money and your car though, so by all means go ahead.
A lot more weight? You may not know what an ls swap actually weighs... This is likely barely more if not close to the weight of my current car with a vortech supercharger... yet its NA, stock, and reliable. Not to mention you can get practically every single part at any automotive parts store without waiting on backorder. Which is great compared to the fact I couldn't even get a passenger side idler puller for my car in under 3-4 days.

IIRC bias is shifted ~4%. WGP did have an account but they were apparently banned for "ruining the true nature of the car". Or at least that was what they said the ban was for.

cf6mech 12-15-2013 02:25 AM
If I don't do it now,....I will in the near future as this car was made for such a swap,...and I whole heartedly believe once these cars see some mileage there will be a lot of V8 swapped FRS/BRZ's out there. I'm right now mulling the idea over with a shop who has done this on a few other cars ( non GT86's) they are very capable, they are presently installing a roll bar/seats and suspension bits on my car....just want some other opinions.

Captain Snooze 12-15-2013 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TruRace (Post 1390902)
Anyone that advises against this is truly a 86 fanboy.
Anyone with a differing opinion is a fanboy? Straw-man argument. The op is asking for "any thoughts". That is not to say that all opinions are based or experience or facts but such are the forums.

cf6mech 12-15-2013 03:25 AM
Thanks all,....keep it coming. Captain Snooze is correct,....want to hear pros and cons....I'm planning on leaving the LSX virtually stock except exhaust of course.

Captain Snooze 12-15-2013 06:25 AM
My opinion is.....wait for it....wait......
I think the correct frame of mind would be to look upon the project as an experiment. That is, you do not know how the final result will turn out or the issues that will arise. (Expect the unexpected ).
Stating the obvious, ultimately it is your decision but if you do go ahead you will (hopefully) have fun in the process.

TruRace 12-15-2013 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 1391020)
Anyone with a differing opinion is a fanboy?
Yes, as I said the LSx is a great platform. The pros out weigh the cons, if his pockets are deep enough of course. Why did you bother posting in here if you choose not to give your opinion? Your contribution was to state the obvious...

Depending on which LSx you use, the power you can get with simple bolt-on's, cam and tune is incredible. Although the pictures do look like the motor is sitting pretty high up in the engine bay, so you would probably lose that low center of gravity the brz/frs is famous for. Hard to tell though.

Boofneenee 12-15-2013 07:24 AM
sounds like a massive headache but that is just because I don't know much about fixing/repairing cars. However, I will certainly enjoy your "build thread" that I am sure you will post for the community should you conduct this project. I would imagine this is not your DD... if it is then I would say dont do it

Iand518 12-15-2013 08:03 AM
Wow! American ingenuity. It's not for me, but very cool. 400+ HP without the threat of popping your motor. This would be scary fast!


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FirestormFRS 12-15-2013 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1390983)
A lot more weight? You may not know what an ls swap actually weighs... This is likely barely more if not close to the weight of my current car with a vortech supercharger... yet its NA, stock, and reliable. Not to mention you can get practically every single part at any automotive parts store without waiting on backorder. Which is great compared to the fact I couldn't even get a passenger side idler puller for my car in under 3-4 days.

IIRC bias is shifted ~4%. WGP did have an account but they were apparently banned for "ruining the true nature of the car". Or at least that was what they said the ban was for.
A crate LS1 from GM weighs 409lb's without oil. Add in all the fabricated additional supports, braces (86 frame will twist with a high torque engine), stronger front springs, and all the ancillary stuff and I assure you it's significantly more than a fa20 with a vortech.

DJCarbine 12-15-2013 10:57 AM
To everyone saying it doesn't make sense or ruins the nature of the car... since when did modifying cars EVER make sense :bellyroll:

My friend spends a small fortune on horror movies/memorabilia, and it makes no sense to me... but it makes HIM happy.

Do what you want and don't care about what anyone else thinks. In the end you are driving the car, not them

All the math and logic in the world can prove that something doesn't make sense, but it will put a smile on the face of somebody.

Calum 12-15-2013 01:02 PM
The one thing that I haven't seen in here, though I didn't read everything, is any concerns about the rear suspension geometry. People are already having trouble getting 60' times down to 2.0 seconds from the slips I've seen. Hooking up with an LSx would only make it harder. Are you prepared to pioneer a 3 or 4 link setup?

Iand518 12-15-2013 01:22 PM
Like a modern day AC Cobra. Light car + powerhouse engine = WOW!


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cf6mech 12-15-2013 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Boofneenee (Post 1391205)
sounds like a massive headache but that is just because I don't know much about fixing/repairing cars. However, I will certainly enjoy your "build thread" that I am sure you will post for the community should you conduct this project. I would imagine this is not your DD... if it is then I would say dont do it
Not my DD,....but I cant seem to not want to choose the FRS keys on the key rack when I'm headed out to work. :burnrubber:


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