Personal opinion: buy a 2013 as cheaply as you can then have Katskinz leather installed in the color of your choice. SHAZAM! :-D

It's the front fascia, in which I believe the FR-S/GT86 has that suits the character lines of the 86 more. If I were in another country, I'd definitely get the GT86 over the BRZ. But I've already solved my dilemma, as I've got my GT86 spec headlights ordered already.

If you can get a 2013 for significantly less than a 2014, AND you don't care about technology/cosmetic/luxury upgrades because you might end up changing some stuff or adding some stuff yourself? Then I wouldn't wait, I would go get a First Gen (of the revolution) 2013 now.

eh, it's just another marketing thing to me. I'm more than happy with the simplicity of my '13. I've done almost all the cosmetic things I want to do. The ONLY thing I think would be fun would be the headlights. The rest doesn't really matter to me. In 5 years, I bet the headlights will be had at a fraction of the price.

If the 2015 has a 1.6 liter turbo.... I'm just saying....

The reason I wanted the FR-S over the BRZ Limited is because I could get my FR-S here in Canada with ALL the available upgrades I wanted for the same price as a BRZ Limited would cost just to start with and the BRZ wouldn't even have the upgrades that I wanted most in that price (exhaust, intake, etc.).
Second reason is that I like the FR-S bumper more, plus I just had to have Ultramarine. We never got GBS here in Canada for the BRZ's.
Third reason is that, even though it's not that big a difference in daily driving, I wanted the more tail happy twin.
Fourth reason, I like the more single-tone interior of the FR-S (the black "faux" carbon fibre everyone seems to hate) over the giant silver dash piece of the BRZ. To me, it looks out of place and oddly too bright in sunny conditions. I like dark interiors.
The BRZ is great. Just wasn't for me. :)

If I was you, I would buy a Used FRS, and mod those little features to my own taste while having something fun to look forward to, and Save money

Not gonna bank on this until I actually see it
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I went for the 10 series because I wanted the keyless entry, push start and HID's. I can take or leave the glowing bits of the 10 series and don't mind it's color. Had I known this was coming down the pike, I may have waited then I could have gotten a red or lava one.

Keep in mind that there will always be something newer and better in the future and you might just end up waiting forever and miss out on having a fun car to drive in the meantime.

If I was looking to buy an FR-S right now, I'd hold out until more information is out regarding the 2015 models.

By then, you'll probably have no problem getting a good deal on either a 2014 or a Monogram.

Fortunately Canada hasn't got any 2014s out as far as I know, this means I can wait for the monogram and then I'll be more than satisfied.

if I wait long enough I may dump this for the coming 'supra' replacement in 2015-16 game over.

Luxury? :lol:

No one who demands "luxury" would drive either of the twins at any trim level. Those people tend to go for entry level BMW/Mercedes/Lexus/Acura and then stick their nose high in the air with pride.

Back on topic, it's broken record time! If you don't really dig the "Monogram" features then just buy a base, have them install the features you do want and save a few grand in the process. Also, the pricing is being announced in January and the "soon after" release will probably be around March/April. All depends on how patient you can be if you want those "luxury" features.

Exactly! It seems that now instead of seeing revisions every couple years (like most other cars) they are going to be tinkering with trim levels on the FR-S to no end. Any base or 10 series owner pissed off about monogram will be joined by the monogram owners when the next special trim level is released. The only other option is to just never buy anything out of fear that it will become outdated and miss out on the fun in life!