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DJCarbine 09-29-2013 12:41 PM
FWIW many states (Illinois for sure) allow one readiness monitor to be "Incomplete" at the time of OBDII testing.

I have not verified if my ecutek tune simply makes the readiness monitor "Incomplete" or if it actually sets it to "Ready", but either way it would pass emissions in Illinois as well as other states that have this stipulation....

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Remember, vehicles are rejected when more than two non-continuous readiness monitors are “not ready” for 1996 to 2000 model year vehicles, or when more than one non-continuous readiness monitor is “not ready” for 2001 and newer model year vehicles. Additionally, the catalyst monitor must be “ready” at the time of any re-test after a vehicle failed an initial test for any catalyst code.
Your state my vary in its rules, but this is confirmed for both New York and Illinois... hard to find the info, but it CAN be found if you browse your local state emissions website and search for the part about Readiness Monitors

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Looks like Texas is the exact same way, but I failed to read the part where you don't want ECUTEK.
Throw on a spacer, and test it as soon as all of your other monitors are "ready/complete" with no DTC codes... catalyst does not need to be ready

Boofneenee 09-29-2013 01:33 PM
I'd like it if someone could discuss the additional power this header would provide with a unichip tune/tune in general compared to other headers. The lifetime warranty is intriguing but, will other headers blow this out of the water in terms of gains?

thanks

SloS14 09-29-2013 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boofneenee (Post 1240643)
I'd like it if someone could discuss the additional power this header would provide with a unichip tune/tune in general compared to other headers. The lifetime warranty is intriguing but, will other headers blow this out of the water in terms of gains?

thanks
if by "blow it out of the water" you mean 2-3hp, it's a possibility. Literally just installed my borla 2 minutes ago. It's re-learning or whatever.

m.wood0213 09-29-2013 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 1240595)
FWIW many states (Illinois for sure) allow one readiness monitor to be "Incomplete" at the time of OBDII testing.

I have not verified if my ecutek tune simply makes the readiness monitor "Incomplete" or if it actually sets it to "Ready", but either way it would pass emissions in Illinois as well as other states that have this stipulation....



Your state my vary in its rules, but this is confirmed for both New York and Illinois... hard to find the info, but it CAN be found if you browse your local state emissions website and search for the part about Readiness Monitors

::edit

Looks like Texas is the exact same way, but I failed to read the part where you don't want ECUTEK.
Throw on a spacer, and test it as soon as all of your other monitors are "ready/complete" with no DTC codes... catalyst does not need to be ready
Awesome find thanks for finding that. Does anyone know it just splicing into the current o2 sensor and extending it behind the factory front pipe cat will work?

Danny 09-30-2013 09:17 PM
Just got my Borla UEL header put on 2 days ago, i got a check engine light come up even with O2 spacer. I'm going to have my car tuned though anyway i have full piping. Borla Headers, ARK Test pipe and mid pipe, and ARK exhaust.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 09-30-2013 10:18 PM
When using the Vibrant O2 spacer make sure you use the correct insert to manage the flow the sensor see's. The inserts are key to making it work and why we only sell that one with the kit.

BP1913 09-30-2013 10:19 PM
FA20club has a catted UEL available - no CEL. Have you considered this?

m.wood0213 09-30-2013 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BP1913 (Post 1243111)
FA20club has a catted UEL available - no CEL. Have you considered this?
Ya I have just a lot more money and it would take longer to make. Im starting to figure out that a uncatted header is not a good idea for a DD.

ntaphse 10-01-2013 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 1242999)
Just got my Borla UEL header put on 2 days ago, i got a check engine light come up even with O2 spacer. I'm going to have my car tuned though anyway i have full piping. Borla Headers, ARK Test pipe and mid pipe, and ARK exhaust.
So you don't have any cats in your system then right? How are the fumes?

boxer 2.5 10-01-2013 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by m.wood0213 (Post 1243258)
Ya I have just a lot more money and it would take longer to make. Im starting to figure out that a uncatted header is not a good idea for a DD.
Exactly. Especially for longevity.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Danny 10-01-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ntaphse (Post 1243400)
So you don't have any cats in your system then right? How are the fumes?
Nope, no cats at all. The fumes are alright i don't smell it unless i remain idle for a while and that's obviously only with the windows down. I have no emissions test in Florida so i can get away with no cats. I'm getting an intake next and then having my car tuned.

BP1913 10-01-2013 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by m.wood0213 (Post 1243258)
Ya I have just a lot more money and it would take longer to make. Im starting to figure out that a uncatted header is not a good idea for a DD.
I'm in the exact same boat as you. Starting to feel the extra cash for catted is worth it.

m.wood0213 10-01-2013 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BP1913 (Post 1245172)
I'm in the exact same boat as you. Starting to feel the extra cash for catted is worth it.
Yaaaaaa it sucks. Close to $1k for catted header plus the build time sounds miserable. I might wait for tax refund time or just go w/ a front pipe. I dont think running uncatted headers for DD will be good in the long run.

Boofneenee 10-01-2013 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by m.wood0213 (Post 1245191)
Yaaaaaa it sucks. Close to $1k for catted header plus the build time sounds miserable. I might wait for tax refund time or just go w/ a front pipe. I dont think running uncatted headers for DD will be good in the long run.
why? whats wrong with running uncatted headers for the long run.. what will happen to the car?

thanks


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