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Matt90 08-09-2013 06:26 PM

Well I'll be damned it could be all 4 bulbs are faulty ?..
Let me be more specific ,when I hard brake its at the point where I stop completely and the car jerks slightly that the LEDs turn off and back on quickly.

boredom.is.me 08-09-2013 06:26 PM

Loose connection?

Matt90 08-09-2013 06:27 PM

Its happend 3 times so far

Matt90 08-09-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1131068)
Lose connection?

I installed all 4 bulbs snuggly and securely the probability of all 4 doing that seems so unlikely :(

kALMIGHTY 08-09-2013 06:36 PM

Do the AT's have the "idle dip" issue? If so, maybe when your car finally stops, the RPM's drop really low for a split second just before true idle really starts and that's when the LED's go out for a second.
Next time you're in the car and brake hard, watch how low the RPM's go and report back.

OrbitalEllipses 08-09-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kALMIGHTY (Post 1131032)
You can basically see your car "dying" when it's on the verge of stalling. If that's the case, then there's nothing wrong, but if your RPM's are high, then it is a problem.

You certainly can and it's certainly funny!

Tony Mac 08-09-2013 06:56 PM

I noticed this as well under hard braking. AT also. I think it does have something to do with the RPMs dropping suddenly, as the transmission lets the RPMs drop to just before stalling. When I stop gradually, this isn't an issue.

wparsons 08-10-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1131056)
But he is driving an AT.

It can still let the revs drop too low... I would bet A LOT that this is 100% tied to rpm dropping too low and voltages dropping.

s0sl0w 08-10-2013 09:37 AM

My BRZ does this with the DRL strips, near as I can tell by playing with it, it's RPM related and nothing to worry about.

Xanzent 08-10-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt90 (Post 1131064)
Well I'll be damned it could be all 4 bulbs are faulty ?..
Let me be more specific ,when I hard brake its at the point where I stop completely and the car jerks slightly that the LEDs turn off and back on quickly.

LEDs unlike traditional filament bulbs are either on or off, and require a minimum voltage to operate. Assuming you're in gear the entire time you're stopping, the revs are dipping below normal idle and as a result the voltage going to the lights is dropping.

Filament lights would just dim in this situation, but LED lights, if the voltage gets too low, will simply shut off. This is perfectly normal and unavoidable.

DJ_Joee 08-10-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt90 (Post 1130921)
When I am driving and braking normally everything is fine , but if I need to hit the breaks hard from a decent speed I noticed my DTRs will turn off until I stop completely then turn back on as if nothing happend.. ( I can see the lights shut off in the reflection of other cars ahead of me ) is this normal ?

Funny i thaught i was crazy, i have swp limited brz and i notice the same thing when hard breaking happens and to confirm this i even tried it again while holding down the ee-brake handle just to rule it out, i dont know about you but i have a canadian spec car, and people talking about rpm, it has nothing to do with it by the time i let go of the brakes im eather not less then 2000rpm or i hvae downshifted to make sure i dont drop that low (i have a manual btw)

Rayme 08-10-2013 12:09 PM

You replaced your high beam with LEDs. The high beam when on DRL mode use a reduced voltage so you don't blind people when it's not totally sunny, they're not getting 12-14 volts when in operation.

So maybe you're getting 6 volts or so, any reduced voltage might be enough to shut off the LEDs.

DJ_Joee 08-10-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayme (Post 1132126)
You replaced your high beam with LEDs. The high beam when on DRL mode use a reduced voltage so you don't blind people when it's not totally sunny, they're not getting 12-14 volts when in operation.

So maybe you're getting 6 volts or so, any reduced voltage might be enough to shut off the LEDs.

I beleive where talking about the brz witch comes with led drl from factory (right above the fogs) well at least i am!


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